Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I mean there are data to actually determine subjective perceptions of NYC by tourists. And something called "Destination image" plays a role, which is shown to be modified by the visitor's political views, e.g., progressives were less likely to visit Alabama due to its perceived conservative politics; conservatives are less likely to visit NYC due to its seeming progressive politics.



Here's a recent video by FOX news interviewing foreign tourists in NYC.



And here is a most recent report from the NY comptroller showing the almost every metric for tourism has recovered to near-preCovid levels, and tourism is only expected to grow. [This report was characteristically misrepresented by the NY Post, which stated crime was a major reason for the non-recovery, but didn't choose to emphasize the fact that *everything* has changed since Covid, so even using pre-covid metrics might not be the best benchmarks]


Errr no data to perceptions please, he also listed the synonyms helpfully which further proved his err... point
 
I mean there are data to actually determine subjective perceptions of NYC by tourists. And something called "Destination image" plays a role, which is shown to be modified by the visitor's political views, e.g., progressives were less likely to visit Alabama due to its perceived conservative politics; conservatives are less likely to visit NYC due to its seeming progressive politics.



Here's a recent video by FOX news interviewing foreign tourists in NYC.



And here is a most recent report from the NY comptroller showing the almost every metric for tourism has recovered to near-preCovid levels, and tourism is only expected to grow. [This report was characteristically misrepresented by the NY Post, which stated crime was a major reason for the non-recovery, but didn't choose to emphasize the fact that *everything* has changed since Covid, so even using pre-covid metrics might not be the best benchmarks]



FFS verreauxi.
Data?!? Facts???
We don't do that here
 
FFS verreauxi.
Data?!? Facts???
We don't do that here

The Mori foundation is highly respected in Japan -- however if you read between the lines the data is not updated nor is it referencing comparable differences on economy, politics and crime.

So, yes there are no facts or data that have been shown in this thread to dispute why I said.

As for the final part its quite clear bias.

The increasing amount of hostility and sarcasm and no less than two moderators jumping on the bandwagon is bizarre.

I'm really not sure why people are wasting time trying to disprove my points.

The only person in the thread who has posted a single relevant link is me.

Not sure why thats even pertinent.
 
The increasing amount of hostility and sarcasm and no less than two moderators jumping on the bandwagon is bizarre.

I'm really not sure why people are wasting time trying to disprove my points.

The only person in the thread who has posted a single relevant link is me.

Not sure why thats even pertinent.
Spoken like a true wannabe dictator that you admire so much.
 
@Zatara as @Walken pointed out being part of a huge multiquote makes it really difficult to respond but I’ll try.



I cannot even think of a democrat politician who used to be a real estate developer so will not be able to come up with one who was charged for crimes related to that activity. However is it truly standard practice to inflate square footage by 3 times as Trump did with his penthouse? Perhaps you can give examples of peop,e who did that who weren’t charged?



In the recent trial since when are NDAs useless unless the court approves them?


As for when are NDAs useless - Harvey Weinstein routinely used NDAs to silence his victims
There are a couple of lawyers who post in the thread who would have more knowledge than I, but my understanding is that if the NDA covers something that is illegal then the NDA is unenforceable. I generally think that NDAs, although useful in many contexts, can be abused by the powerful to avoid accountability for wrongdoing.

Yes John Edwards was acquitted - he wasn’t stupid enough to leave a paper trail of 11 invoices, 11 checks and 12 ledger enrtries. If a future democrat does try to pay off a mistress in the exact same way I expect him to be charged and convicted.

You must surely realise the irony here?

Me quoting multiple posters means 1 message for each person, youve sent me 7 or whatever with no context as its all removed. How am i meant to answer you or walken...

...also, none of your points are relevant to my own initial post or view i will try:

1: You cant think of a Democrat developer in NYC. In a city full of democrats, not one.

Only the republican bloke...who was charged.

2: You and the judge seemingly dont have any experience in values of real estate.

3: Randomly bringing up Weinstein? Really?

4: Youre effectively and admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidence...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court and no one wanted to go after but the democrat party.

There you go.

Still not seeing anyone contradict my points ahout economy, crime & politics in NYC.

Lets leave it there...for those scoring points and making smarmy comments I am the only one to post a relevant and valid article. Good luck with that.
 
You must surely realise the irony here?

Me quoting multiple posters means 1 message for each person, youve sent me 7 or whatever with no context as its all removed. How am i meant to answer you or walken...

...also, none of your points are relevant to my own initial post or view i will try:

1: You cant think of a Democrat developer in NYC. In a city full of democrats, not one.

Only the republican bloke...who was charged.

2: You and the judge seemingly dont have any experience in values of real estate.

3: Randomly bringing up Weinstein? Really?

4: Youre effectively and admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidence...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court and no one wanted to go after but the democrat party.

There you go.

Still not seeing anyone contradict my points ahout economy, crime & politics in NYC.

Let’s leave it there...for those scoring points and making smarmy comments I am the only one to post a relevant and valid article. Good luck with that.
Why are you doing this?
 
You must surely realise the irony here?

Me quoting multiple posters means 1 message for each person, youve sent me 7 or whatever with no context as its all removed. How am i meant to answer you or walken...

...also, none of your points are relevant to my own initial post or view i will try:

1: You cant think of a Democrat developer in NYC. In a city full of democrats, not one.

Only the republican bloke...who was charged.

2: You and the judge seemingly dont have any experience in values of real estate.

3: Randomly bringing up Weinstein? Really?

4: Youre effectively and admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidence...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court and no one wanted to go after but the democrat party.

There you go.

Still not seeing anyone contradict my points ahout economy, crime & politics in NYC.

Lets leave it there...for those scoring points and making smarmy comments I am the only one to post a relevant and valid article. Good luck with that.
Oh no, one of the forums smarter posters (@LinekersLegs) vs. one of the dimmest.

This should be good.
 
You must surely realise the irony here?

Me quoting multiple posters means 1 message for each person, youve sent me 7 or whatever with no context as its all removed. How am i meant to answer you or walken...

...also, none of your points are relevant to my own initial post or view i will try:

1: You cant think of a Democrat developer in NYC. In a city full of democrats, not one.

Only the republican bloke...who was charged.

2: You and the judge seemingly dont have any experience in values of real estate.

3: Randomly bringing up Weinstein? Really?

4: Youre effectively and admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidence...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court and no one wanted to go after but the democrat party.

There you go.

Still not seeing anyone contradict my points ahout economy, crime & politics in NYC.

Lets leave it there...for those scoring points and making smarmy comments I am the only one to post a relevant and valid article. Good luck with that.
Zat, the reason why I wasn’t directly responding to your post, and instead copying the relevant bits into a quote without a link to the original, is that on my cell phone/ipad it is tiresome to delete the huge blocks of text that were your response to other posters. It isn’t as much of a issue when I am on a pc but I wasn’t. It is much easier when you just directly respond, as you kindly did here, especially with the numbering of points so thank you for that.

1) No, I genuinely cannot think of a Democrat developer in NYC. Real estate isn’t my forte and I live in California. Perhaps you can enlighten me on some developers, especially any who then turned their attention to politics?

2) I don’t think I ever claimed to have any experience in commercial real estate! Which is why I asked “However is it truly standard practice to inflate square footage by 3 times as Trump did with his penthouse? Perhaps you can give examples of people who did that who weren’t charged?”.

I do however presume that the judge did some homework on the issue. You keep on saying that he is wrong but offering no evidence that what Trump did is standard practice.

3) You had posted “In the recent trial since when are NDAs useless unless the court approves them? ”. That is why I brought up Weinstein and how he used them to silence his victims but that it still didn’t stop him from eventually being convicted and the NDAs being used in evidence. You have in this most recent post also brought up NDAs “ ...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court” so you seem to think them relevant?

I do too as it happens. I think that having the NDA suggested to the jury that Trump did indeed sleep with Daniels and was trying to cover it up. Trump’s lawyer during the trial continued to say that Trump did not sleep with Daniels, just that he had written an NDA and paid her $130k for…..tbh I’m not quite sure what alternate reason he gave for Trump paying a random porn star that he claimed never to have met that amount of money.

4) No I am not “ admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidencee”.

I am “admiting one person is not guilty as hes hid the evidence”. Notice the absence of the words “he’s a democrat”?

I personally believe that John Edwards was guilty of the same thing that Trump did. And I also believe one of the reasons why a jury did not unanimously find him guilty beyond reasonable doubt is that he did not leave a financial trail behind him. I also think the defense lawyer went with a much smarter strategy of “yes he slept with her, he’s an utter sleaze ball but he didn’t do anything criminal”.

Juries are asked to make their decisions on evidence and a paper trail of 11 invoices, 11 checks and 12 ledger entries is a pretty big one which you constantly avoid admitting.
 
I've highlighted the section I'm replying to, but you need to stop multi quoting if you have any serious interest in discourse.

First off you talk of the clinton foundation and supposed corruption as a reason Clinton should not have ran. Yet you advocated trump who is now offically guilty of falsifying legal records, he also incited an insurrection that cost lives, he is also accused of perjury, being unlawfully in possession of government records of a highly sensitive nature, obstructing the FBI in relation to russian interference in an election, election fraud, discrimination against people of black ethnicity in renting apartments, defrauding 5000 people etc etc. If you have issue with the clintons, you can't claim you don't care about trumps crimes.

On the Economy, trump took over a economy trending upwards after Obama, his policies are found to have no impact and his tariffs to actually increase federal debt. GDP was around 2% when he took office and around 0.2% when he left. Biden inherited trumps mess at 0.2%, GDP now stands at 3% and prevented a recession with inflation coming down faster than projected and wage growth beginning to at least match inflation.

But we cant talk economy without talking unemployment, trump lost 2,7 miliion jobs, biden has gained 6 million and unemployment has been one of the biden administrations strongest suits. trump also continued to outsource jobs which is something the patriot did prior to his presidency.

Stock market, Biden trending up again, 24% growth last year.

The concept of the US having a worse image under Biden is your most laughable statement, trump was met with out and out protest on foreign visits, a repugnant individual hated for his views and laughed at for his stupididty. Unless you are putin there is not a chance in hell the US image was better under trump.
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On homelessness, both Bush and Obama attempted to tackle this, and made progress, the surge began with trump. It began with trump because he is a sociopath and doesn't care about it. (you can probably empathise), please tell me what policies he enacted to tackle this. Biden has slowed the surge and is looking to do more

On mass immigration, you should be applauding Biden's immigration executive order on extending powers during high surge periods, I'm personally not a fan on humanitarian reasons (again, not an issue for you), but he has outmanouvered the self interested trmp republicans who blocked any action at all.

Further to that there are several factors by which Biden would be my preference, you may or may not care about them.

He rejoined the paris agreement, its not something I get in a froth about but if you do care about immigration you better be willing to tackle climate change. An anti-science moron like trump who has never read a book will see the planet burn to boost his bank balance.

Biden is not anti-union and shows emapthy for the working man, both young workers and low earning workers have been the biggest winners in wage growth.

His medicaid expansion, healthcare being an area of abject failure for trump. Biden has lowered prescription drug cost, protected vulnerable people to have access to insulin. All importnat parts of being a politician that don't make headlines in your 'whats my bank balance' world.

The american rescue plan

The infrastructure law

Inflation reduction act

The chips and science act

Despite all this I personally don't consider myself aligned with the Biden administration, I also recognise that the stock we put in a president is exaggerated and many other factors need to be considered, which is another win for Biden over trump in terms of personal in his party, as trump has to routinely change those around him and his administration for a variety of reasons such as incompetance, refusing to be as evil as him or going to jail. It's a very layered situation that requires a lot of reading to get to any level of understanding. But, as Chomsky says we vote against the worst, and trump is the worst. To support trump you either belong to his cult or the very worst aspects of human behaviour appeal to you. Within the democratic party there is empathy and intelligence that goes beyond a low base level cunning of what can we grab for ourselves. In the Democratic party there is less hate, less bigotry and less phony culture wars that seeks to harm vulnerable members of society to create divide. There is less religious fundamentalism in the democratic party and an ability for progressive activism to change positions.

If you stealth reply to me in a silly multi quote format I won't be replying.

Good say sir.
Zat, the reason why I wasn’t directly responding to your post, and instead copying the relevant bits into a quote without a link to the original, is that on my cell phone/ipad it is tiresome to delete the huge blocks of text that were your response to other posters. It isn’t as much of a issue when I am on a pc but I wasn’t. It is much easier when you just directly respond, as you kindly did here, especially with the numbering of points so thank you for that.

1) No, I genuinely cannot think of a Democrat developer in NYC. Real estate isn’t my forte and I live in California. Perhaps you can enlighten me on some developers, especially any who then turned their attention to politics?

2) I don’t think I ever claimed to have any experience in commercial real estate! Which is why I asked “However is it truly standard practice to inflate square footage by 3 times as Trump did with his penthouse? Perhaps you can give examples of people who did that who weren’t charged?”.

I do however presume that the judge did some homework on the issue. You keep on saying that he is wrong but offering no evidence that what Trump did is standard practice.

3) You had posted “In the recent trial since when are NDAs useless unless the court approves them? ”. That is why I brought up Weinstein and how he used them to silence his victims but that it still didn’t stop him from eventually being convicted and the NDAs being used in evidence. You have in this most recent post also brought up NDAs “ ...the guilty republican president who had NDA, settled out of court” so you seem to think them relevant?

I do too as it happens. I think that having the NDA suggested to the jury that Trump did indeed sleep with Daniels and was trying to cover it up. Trump’s lawyer during the trial continued to say that Trump did not sleep with Daniels, just that he had written an NDA and paid her $130k for…..tbh I’m not quite sure what alternate reason he gave for Trump paying a random porn star that he claimed never to have met that amount of money.

4) No I am not “ admitting one person is not guilty as hes democrat and hid the evidencee”.

I am “admiting one person is not guilty as hes hid the evidence”. Notice the absence of the words “he’s a democrat”?

I personally believe that John Edwards was guilty of the same thing that Trump did. And I also believe one of the reasons why a jury did not unanimously find him guilty beyond reasonable doubt is that he did not leave a financial trail behind him. I also think the defense lawyer went with a much smarter strategy of “yes he slept with her, he’s an utter sleaze ball but he didn’t do anything criminal”.

Juries are asked to make their decisions on evidence and a paper trail of 11 invoices, 11 checks and 12 ledger entries is a pretty big one which you constantly avoid admitting.
If you're getting tired of arguing the same points over and over again, I found a generic response that might save you guys some frustration and headaches...

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It also doubles up for arguing with kopites... Two birds, one stone and all that.
 
Kopite levels of cringe. :lol:


The mental gymnastics that Christians must have to do in order to continue supporting a known rapist, adulterer & serial liar such as him is off the scale.
Not to mention anyone with half a brain knows he's only faking being a 'Christian' for their vote.

I've always said, for a lot of these people, religion is a mask for them to hide their bigoted beliefs behind. "Oh I don't hate [insert group here], but the bible says they are bad."
 
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