Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Tubey]

Aye, and that is most certainly a thing. I don't believe every report coming from butthurt Twitter users about rampant Donald Trump fans burning their cat, but I have no doubt this has emboldened some utter knob-ends. I can't imagine it will be anything other than a short-term phenomenon. That's still pretty grim, I know, but once America has stopped wobbling from this result it will be business as usual

That depends on Trump supporter seeing improvement, and Trump himself having no obstacles.

Because say the USA enter a depression - it's so easy to go back to the well and blame immigrants for it, or blame China, become isolationist, scapegoat foreigners in general and so on.

Once you've established a pattern of blaming a largely imaginary scapegoat for all your problems, you can do so time and time again. To see parallels with Germany again, see the Great Depression and how the NSDAP capitalised from it.

But the thing is, even if things go well, it actually legitimises the politics even further (like the total war economy resulting in Nazi popularity due to high employment, the building of the autobahns and so on).

So it all comes down to what Trump does next. Is he content to play normal politics now? If so, things will subside. But if he's determined to play popularity politics by blaming when things go wrong etc. then the trouble will be long term.

 

[Prevenger17]

He stabilized the economy, and helped the nation through economic recovery.

No man, that was the benevolent Republicans. The Kenyan King tried to sabotage America and plunge it into a new Age of Darkness

 

[TX Bill]

Am going for a walk..

Honestly. That's a great idea. So are we:

http://lunchesoflove.net/events/

 

[orly]

He could be a disaster mate. The truth is, nobody effing knows.

We don't mate, absolutely. But what this hasn't been is a failure of democracy, as democracy is not designed to keep out the far left or the far right - it's to give then public the chance to vote for it, and then remove it through another vote. People should be very, very wary of groups or individuals that want to abandon a system just because it has produced a result they aren't happy with. As I've mentioned a few times, the outcome of the vote is a reflection of the systemic problems on the world that proceeded it, not what we are on the cusp of.

We've had change here. What we've not had is centrist/ Third Way type governments (in the UK in particular) being allowed to play pass the parcel, getting ever more ineffective and corrupt as they go along. Labour (Milliband) and Tories (Cameron) were virtually homogenised politics - and what happens if you mix red and blue? You get purple, which just so happens to be the UKIP colour of choice.

 

[TheFinnFan]

He could be a disaster mate. The truth is, nobody effing knows.

Democrats should blame themselves really. Their politics have caused the gradual decline of middle class in America.

Trump is a question mark but it/he is a change that people craved.

 

[SNova]

It is incredible. There are intelligent, prominent people going around openly saying that white people / their racism are to blame for Trump winning. When Van Jones came out with it on election night, I thought it was just one man saying something a bit dumb without the benefit of a script or hindsight - but if anything it seems to have been the dominant response from much of the commentariat:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...4ce14e-a787-11e6-8042-f4d111c862d1_story.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/11/samantha_bee_white_people_have_ruined_america.html
https://news.vice.com/story/white-people-voted-to-elect-donald-trump
http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...hite-people-america-society-class-race-214227

It is a bit mad that the response to Trumps' win is to ape his tactic of blaming a specific race for it. It is even madder that many of the people doing the blaming are themselves white, and were prominent in supporting a white candidate in the election.

It's amazing isn't it. Race doesn't exist! The white race is evil! George Orwell would be alarmed at their doublethink.

 

[Prevenger17]

Trump is a question mark but it/he is a change that people craved.

Aye, and the Democrats failed abysmally to read that craving

 

[SNova]

I have found it very difficult to discern any policies in amongst his rhetoric but the one that he seems to keep going back to is the "wall". Is building a wall to keep Mexicans out not restricting immigration.

Illegal ones yes. Were building a wall in Calais.

 

[ilikecheese]

No man, that was the benevolent Republicans. The Kenyan King tried to sabotage America and plunge it into a new Age of Darkness

Haha...I saw your post.

 

[abelard]

Is he content to play normal politics now?

does he know how, even if he wanted to?

does a base that overwhelmingly voted against normal politics accept it from him?

if he changes the name of NAFTA to TRUMPTA, but leaves everything else intact, which the Canadians are now effectively offering, are we satisfied that the swamp has been drained?

 

[ilikecheese]

Aye, and the Democrats failed abysmally to read that craving

No man...the election was rigged.

 

[Tubey]

does he know how, even if he wanted to?

does a base that overwhelmingly voted against normal politics accept it from him?

if he changes the name of NAFTA to TRUMPTA, but leaves everything else intact, which the Canadians are now effectively offering, are we satisfied that the swamp has been drained?

We simply don't know. But we've only seen him say things, not do things.

 

[Prevenger17]

But what this hasn't been is a failure of democracy, as democracy is not designed to keep out the far left or the far right - it's to give then public the chance to vote for it

Exactly, the Don won fair and square, but there's an unbelievable irony in all these people who say he's going to become a tyrant, while simultaneously signing petitions urging the Electoral College guys to put Hillary in office.

Hillary was championed by the left-wing media and Democratic Party elite, who colluded with each other to ensure that Sanders was taken out of the equation and denied as an option to the huge, enthusiastic support base that he had mobilized. They hoped that the "at least she's not Trump" campaign philosophy would mollify them and surprise, surprise; It didn't.

As far as I'm concerned, there was only one democratically elected nominee in the entire race, and he's going to be the next US President

 

[TheFinnFan]

Aye, and the Democrats failed abysmally to read that craving

This. Theyve lost touch. Obamas quote "Trump will not become president because I believe in american people" tells alot. Think about the money compared to Trump what they spended into the campaign. ...think about the media...think about the celebrities that tried to turn peoples heads.
this is a monumental WIN for common people.

 

[Prevenger17]

This. Theyve lost touch. Obamas quote "Trump will not become president because I believe in american people" tells alot. Think about the money compared to Trump what they spended into the campaign. ...think about the media...think about the celebrities that tried to turn peoples heads.
this is a monumental WIN for common people.

It's almost as if people, when it boils down to it, care more about their country than what effing Beyonce thinks