Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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If it is, I'm sure we're going to find out, very publicly.


The problem is, Trump is already making unheard of conciliatory overtures to the Democrats. The Republicans still, by and large, consider him dangerous. I suspect if he shows signs of being too individualistic, we'll see an impeachment before he's served a year in office. The media will lap it up and it will be up to the public to see through the fog
 
this was a really sound speech, because "ultimately we're all on the same team"


I'm not suggesting that it's purely rhetoric and Obama rightly does come across as magnanimous in his party's defeat against Trump.

However as he rightly suggests, it is in both his and the county's interest for a smooth transition and violence/upheaval would not be beneficial.

It is also important than in his role that he's chivalrous and respectful. Unfortunately, I doubt those around him will be expressing such values.

Once the dust settles, it will be interesting to see whether Trump can also show such values as he's been rather tactful since his success. Will it last?
 
He could be a disaster mate. The truth is, nobody effing knows.

Yep. This election was balanced on a razor's edge of avoiding the candidate that was the most assured disaster.

More of the same old disaster, or a new and different disaster.

There really wasn't any door #3. My optimistic side remembers all the Bedtime for Bonzo references in 1980, when we were going to be seconds away from nuclear annihilation at the hands of that madman Reagan, according to many. That didn't turn out so bad, even if Vladimir Putin might disagree. He has a radically different perspective from yours truly. I'd rather stay optimistic.

We'll see if Trump lives up to his commitments in a way that can win over people that are not already in his corner. I don't have to wonder if he can stand up to the heat of the media. That's about all that is certain, and that's enough for many. I'm still skeptical until the process is complete.

We were under the control of "events" during the election process, and that's as true now as it was then. We are still living in interesting times.

We'll see if the protests turn out to be a more or less permanent feature.
 
I'm not suggesting that it's purely rhetoric and Obama rightly does come across as magnanimous in his party's defeat against Trump.

However as he rightly suggests, it is in both his and the county's interest for a smooth transition and violence/upheaval would not be beneficial.

It is also important than in his role that he's chivalrous and respectful. Unfortunately, I doubt those around him will be expressing such values.

Once the dust settles, it will be interesting to see whether Trump can also show such values as he's been rather tactful since his success. Will it last?

As much as i abhor his foreign policies and feel they damn him in almost the same way Blair is damned for Iraq, I actually rate him as a domestic President. I think he genuinely wanted to calm the waters in that concession speech and also try to show Trump that this way is the American Way and he should continue in that spirit.

Here's hoping Trump will do that while relaxing on all the horrible warmongering stuff.
 
I'm not suggesting that it's purely rhetoric and Obama rightly does come across as magnanimous in his party's defeat against Trump.

However as he rightly suggests, it is in both his and the county's interest for a smooth transition and violence/upheaval would not be beneficial.

It is also important than in his role that he's chivalrous and respectful. Unfortunately, I doubt those around him will be expressing such values.

Once the dust settles, it will be interesting to see whether Trump can also show such values as he's been rather tactful since his success. Will it last?

No. The tweet calling the protests unfair tell you everything you need to know. Donald is about Donald.
 
The problem is, Trump is already making unheard of conciliatory overtures to the Democrats. The Republicans still, by and large, consider him dangerous. I suspect if he shows signs of being too individualistic, we'll see an impeachment before he's served a year in office. The media will lap it up and it will be up to the public to see through the fog

Sadly I think that's likely to be the case. Too moderate, or too much of a suggestion that his historical Democrat leaning ways are starting to surface, and he'll be impeached. What I find quite interesting is that he is, upon election, at the peak of his powers. If he's that much of a proto-facist, he'd be leading the charge while he has momentum. Instead, he's being as you say so conciliatory he may have no real momentum in January. He may also (quite understandably) be absolutely exhausted and needs a few weeks to recuperate before ramping up the rhetoric again.

We don't know, and after this year, what's the point in trying to predict it?
 
Brand saturation is probably now so extreme that subconsciously it is no longer positively impacting on people... or even repulsive .

I have long been thinking that the world breaks down into those who can be advertised to, and those who cannot. The latter group just doesn't matter to so many in this society (like us old farts) so we kind of disappear in the mix. Since we are not avid consumers of pop culture, that culture becomes more alien to us, and often more repulsive.

What was once hip becomes square, so there. Anybody out there have a beard? You know, the one you grow on your face.

Just listen.

 
Sadly I think that's likely to be the case. Too moderate, or too much of a suggestion that his historical Democrat leaning ways are starting to surface, and he'll be impeached. What I find quite interesting is that he is, upon election, at the peak of his powers. If he's that much of a proto-facist, he'd be leading the charge while he has momentum. Instead, he's being as you say so conciliatory he may have no real momentum in January. He may also (quite understandably) be absolutely exhausted and needs a few weeks to recuperate before ramping up the rhetoric again.

We don't know, and after this year, what's the point in trying to predict it?

Alex Salmond was on five live earlier this week talking about Trump and the first time they met. He was saying that Trump was a big Democrat and also a big supporter of the Clinton foundation. He said he wasn't surprised with his actions during the campaign.
 
I have long been thinking that the world breaks down into those who can be advertised to, and those who cannot. The latter group just doesn't matter to so many in this society (like us old farts) so we kind of disappear in the mix. Since we are not avid consumers of pop culture, that culture becomes more alien to us, and often more repulsive.

What was once hip becomes square, so there. Anybody out there have a beard? You know, the one you grow on your face.

Just listen.



Agreed; and the problem is now that when social media and hypertargetted marketing was fresh and innovative - brilliantly adopted by the Obama campaign in 2008 - it was effective and influenced in the way it was intended. But then you got the White House producing and perpetuating its own memes, how farcical is that? Ask Me Anything on Reddit? Supposed to be the highest office in the Western world for goodness sake.

So then we've gone beyond embellishment and idealism of advertisement to the next logical step, which is ignoring tarting up an uncomfortable truth in Vine form and going straight to open lying. Again, years and years of drip drip drip have got us to the point where people can even pretend a big red bus didn't exist.
 
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