Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[ste d' indica]

Is there no provision for this type of situation contained within the US Constitution?

Did the Founding Fathers not consider some unhinged fruitcake refusing to accept that he has beaten in an election?

Given the fact that Trump or some future megalomaniacal fantasist can do untold damage to both the USA and the entire world during the almost three month transitional period, does that gap between Election and Inauguration need to be drastically reduced?

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the position of 'President' wasn't constitutionally envisioned to be as powerful as its become.

And under a reasonable administration, there should be a certain period of handover between the two teams.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

I've been thinking about this a lot.

Trump did a lot of harm to our country, to the world.

He delegitimized accredited media. So anything that is reported against him can be assumed to be a lie or fake news. Other people will surely follow.

He delegitimized scientists and doctors. Making claims that doctors get paid for saying a dead person died from covid.

He now delegitimized our democracy. Paving the way from now on for any party who loses to simply reject the results and try a coup.

If he goes to jail, he will claim it was a fraud by the left to harm him. He will delegitimize the judicial system as well.


All in all, he has injected a massive amount of credibility to baseless conspiracies. Add to that the quick spread of misinformation through social media outlets and you will have a population who will believe a random guy on FB over a credited news media outlet, doctors, scientists, scholars.

The damage is donde both to our society and for things to come in the future.

I totally agree, I think some of this damage is going to be hard to reverse or mend. Specially since his family is going to be around and Trump's dream is to make Ivanka the first woman president. I can see her being the one running in four years.

 

[ste d' indica]

Crikey.

It is a good job Twitter wasn’t around in the 1930s.

A certain elected official in Der Fatherland would have had a gazillion followers worldwide, nodding their heads in agreement at his Messianic rantings

The Daily Mail 'likes' this!

 

[ste d' indica]

This what I find the most baffling about his enablers, it doesn't matter what you do for him, its never enough and he'll always, always turn on you. Like the scorpion in the fable - its his nature, its amazing these people can't see it, despite hundreds of examples. They watch it happen to people they work with, can't get my head round it.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

Scary times in America

If the democrats don't do well in the 2022 congress elections, they are cooked. Too much power on the right at this moment

TBF we have to do really good in the elections in January in Georgia, if Mcconnell takes control of the Senate again it will be a disaster, specially to combat this pandemic.

 

[Sassy Colombian]

Is there no provision for this type of situation contained within the US Constitution?

Did the Founding Fathers not consider some unhinged fruitcake refusing to accept that he has beaten in an election?

Given the fact that Trump or some future megalomaniacal fantasist can do untold damage to both the USA and the entire world during the almost three month transitional period, does that gap between Election and Inauguration need to be drastically reduced?

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the position of 'President' wasn't constitutionally envisioned to be as powerful as its become.

And under a reasonable administration, there should be a certain period of handover between the two teams.

The founding fathers did think of it. It is the 25th amendment. But it would take for the vice-president and his cabinet to make it happen. Under normal circumstances you would think the vice-president and cabinet would stand up to an unhinged president for the sake of the Republic but these are not normal times and Republicans only care about keeping power even if it means shattering our democracy.

"The Twenty-fifth Amendment (Amendment XXV) to the United States Constitution says that if the President becomes unable to do his job, the Vice President becomes the President. It allows the vice president, together with a "majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide", to declare the president "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office" in a written declaration.'

 

[UptheTofees]

 

[roydo]

TBF we have to do really good in the elections in January in Georgia, if Mcconnell takes control of the Senate again it will be a disaster, specially to combat this pandemic.

Sadly, to this observer, and based admittedly of stuff posted on here, usually by @LinekersLegs , who is a Merican dwelling Brit, that battle seems almost lost. The Covid one.

 

[TN Toffee]

Sadly, to this observer, and based admittedly of stuff posted on here, usually by @LinekersLegs , who is a Merican dwelling Brit, that battle seems almost lost. The Covid one.

When the leader of your country not only completely abdicates any responsibility in containing it, but in fact actively makes it worse, it’s no surprise that we are where we are. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

 

[Prevenger17]

There is a certain sense of schadenfreude watching Fox News being deserted by the sort of radical idiot that they are almost solely responsible for radicalising in the first place

 

[Sassy Colombian]

Sadly, to this observer, and based admittedly of stuff posted on here, usually by @LinekersLegs , who is a Merican dwelling Brit, that battle seems almost lost. The Covid one.

It is certainly looking bad in this country at the moment. In some states hospital are at their maximum capacity. But it can get worts, not just in terms of the disease but our economy. A lot of more people will be suffering if we don't pass a significant stimulus package helping low income people and small businesses. But Republicans in Congress don't want to pass such a package, now once again they are worried about the deficit but in the past four years that Trump has been in office they allow for him to grow it hugely specially due to his tax cuts.

 

[roydo]

It is certainly looking bad in this country at the moment. In some states hospital are at their maximum capacity. But it can get worts, not just in terms of the disease but our economy. A lot of more people will be suffering if we don't pass a significant stimulus package helping low income people and small businesses. But Republicans in Congress don't want to pass such a package, now once again they are worried about the deficit but in the past four years that Trump has been in office they allow for him to grow it hugely specially due to his tax cuts.

Yeah, thats what I picked up on. We now know all about the lag from cases to deaths/hospital. If your hospitals are near full capacity now, with the daily infections still rising, today, the next 2 to 3 weeks are likely to be proper grim.

And not an awful lot seems to be being done to soften the spread. Not from the WH anyrate.

 

[UptheTofees]

 

[UptheTofees]

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There is a certain sense of schadenfreude watching Fox News being deserted by the sort of radical idiot that they are almost solely responsible for radicalising in the first place

What did fox even do They have stood by him and never even criticized him They just wont cross the line to the full blown unetichal. That's not good enough for him I guess

 

[RAFUH]

I always ask myself this question but how do people not see through this grotesque fraud of a man?

Some do, but don't care because judges and getting things their way