Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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I don't think it'd be an easy thing to justify at all. It would be really divisive. Justice Ginsburg herself said packing the court would politicise it and destroy it as an institution. It's really not necessary either. The Congress makes the laws and the court defends the constitution. To change that relationship would fundamentally change the constitution and could have some really bad consequences and lots of uncertainty
Saying the quiet parts out loud again
She said that before Trump did what he's doing after her death.
You're right, it'd destroy it - but pushing through his nominee after denying Obama the same privilege is destroying it first. It is ignoring precedent.
And it's definitely necessary. Unfortunately, US politics has become a lot more partisan, particularly from the right, where extremist measures may be pushed through. If the Supreme Court gets left untouched, the Republicans/right wing of politics in the US will have no qualms about using their influence there to stop any and all reforms they don't like.
In a normal time, if the Supreme Court leans one way or the other, it's fair enough, just have to take it. But these aren't normal times, and Trump - through his ego and the lack of checks and balances offered by the pathetically weak Republican party on his excesses - has changed the rules of the game.
The problem with worrying about if something is going to be too political is that there's only one side who's actually even trying to do things in good faith. An entire half of the government is actively trying to destroy it as much as they possibly can so while I do agree with Ginsburg that packing the court will politicized the supreme Court that's already too late to begin with. you can't have two of the three people that Trump has put on there and say with any rational sense that they should be on there at all. The time for politics is pretty damn close to being over at this point.
Oh right yeah, the laptops.
Which, of course, nobody can see is a transparent attempt to manufacture a "Hillary's emails" moment.
No, not at all. It's very legit.
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Fear of politicizing the court is no longer a viable impulse now that the court's already politicized. It's coughing up ideologically determined, five-four decisions as a matter of course these days, notwithstanding the odd Roberts tiebreaker that gets so much press because it's the exception to the rule.
For SCOTUS and the judiciary in general you have to the lay the blame at McConnell’s feet. He’s the one that changed that game...well before Trump was president.
Hang on just a second. I hope this was a weird joke. If you don't see the Conservatives as being really divisive in the way they've handled the Supreme Court and federal judge nominees then you've already lost the argument. McConnell has destroyed the Senate and courts. He will reap what he's sown.
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