Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[RAFUH]

 

[tsubaki]

Here's the thing - the journalist asked a question about why being good at testing is important when people are still dying. All Trump said in response was, correctly, that these people are ultimately dying because of the actions of China. I didn't see any racial intent in his response - he's consistent in that response to anyone who asks such a question.

Indeed, the journalist is much more problematic in that exchange as she tried to play a race card for notoriety when no such issue was existant.

He then got talked over three times when trying to conduct the questioning, wasn't being listened to and correctly called it a day instead of going on with the circus.

That video really isn't a good example to kick Trump with; indeed it's actually stark evidence that he sometimes has a point when he calls the media crap.

Was this posted after a large amount of alcohol was consumed?

China has nothing to do with why doing the most testing should be seen as a victory, which is what the question was actually about. Boasting about the testing, especially in the circumstances the US is in, is a distraction that is fooling no one. It’s Martinez boasting about possession when we are on 8 points from 37 games.

As for the second reporter, how she gets criticised by you for letting her colleague ask Trump why he said “ask China” to as Asian American reporter is a bit mad. The only thing you can criticise the Press corps is for not walking out themselves when he said it. Does he have to make a lynching joke to Yamiche before they do that?

Trump is a particularly unpleasant baby whose tantrums now threaten us all.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

And even if they hadn’t been left these things they have had over three years to create their own, it isn’t like scientists haven’t warned about pandemics.

@Grinch @Tubey Any comment on this? I mean I know it’s all China’s fault, but this seems... kinda relevant

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Amazing...

 

[Prevenger17]

Is what it is. He would be wrong in any scenario no matter what he would do. If I were him, I wouldn’t even have anything that involved the press

Lol, amazing to watch you rationalise him running off like a big baby

 

[ste d' indica]

Is what it is. He would be wrong in any scenario no matter what he would do. If I were him, I wouldn’t even have anything that involved the press

Now there's something you can ask China about.

 

[Tubey]

@Grinch @Tubey Any comment on this? I mean I know it’s all China’s fault, but this seems... kinda relevant

You seem to think I'm defending Trump, or that I'm sort of Trump fan.

I'm really not.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donald-trump-for-president-thread.77838/page-456#post-5009345

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donald-trump-potus.92716/page-684#post-5699673

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donald-trump-potus.92716/page-41#post-5017398

... and so on.

Has he done a good job on this or basically anything else? God no. All I said was that very specific clip was more embarrassing for those journalists than Trump. It was a terrible question, followed by an unfounded insinuation and then a bout of unprofessionalism.

And I'll also keep reminding people that no matter how terrible Johnson and Trump are, they're dealing with a situation that was ultimately caused by China. For some totally bizarre reason, people seem desperate to shield China from blame, and I believe it's because it's a politically convenient situation to bash Trump/Johnson with.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Is what it is. He would be wrong in any scenario no matter what he would do. If I were him, I wouldn’t even have anything that involved the press

But the purpose of the press is to scrutinize the government. They hold them to account and educate the public of misdeeds on all sides.

 

[Tubey]

Was this posted after a large amount of alcohol was consumed?

China has nothing to do with why doing the most testing should be seen as a victory, which is what the question was actually about. Boasting about the testing, especially in the circumstances the US is in, is a distraction that is fooling no one. It’s Martinez boasting about possession when we are on 8 points from 37 games.

As for the second reporter, how she gets criticised by you for letting her colleague ask Trump why he said “ask China” to as Asian American reporter is a bit mad. The only thing you can criticise the Press corps is for not walking out themselves when he said it. Does he have to make a lynching joke to Yamiche before they do that?

Trump is a particularly unpleasant baby whose tantrums now threaten us all.

No, she didn't just ask about testing - she made the question political by phrasing it as the government being more interested in point scoring than saving lives. Therefore Trump is within his rights to reply highlighting the reason lives are being lost in the first instance.

As for your second point, I firmly believe Trump is a massive racist - however, that isn't an example of it. He's used that term in exactly the same way to journalists of all ethnicities before now. It wasn't racism in that video, and attempting to claim that it was is grasping at straws.

There's no reason to go searching for tenuous reasons to criticise the idiots when a billion reasons are readily available.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

No, she didn't just ask about testing - she made the question political by phrasing it as the government being more interested in point scoring than saving lives. Therefore Trump is within his rights to reply highlighting the reason lives are being lost in the first instance.

As for your second point, I firmly believe Trump is a massive racist - however, that isn't an example of it. He's used that term in exactly the same way to journalists of all ethnicities before now. It wasn't racism in that video, and attempting to claim that it was is grasping at straws.

There's no reason to go searching for tenuous reasons to criticise the idiots when a billion reasons are readily available.

Did you actually see his address last night? As your incredibly weird take on this would suggest that you haven’t. You should probably watch it, and then you might understand the question posed. Context is important.

 

[Tubey]

Did you actually see his address last night? As your incredibly weird take on this would suggest that you haven’t. You should probably watch it, and then you might understand the question posed. Context is important.

Yes, and again I'm not defending Trump beyond that one clip. He's dreadful - a complete disaster for the USA and the world and him being President feels like we're living in a bizarre parallel timeline.

Even in context, for me the job of the media is to ask incisive questions and hold him to task professionally - be above the fray. Those two journalists didn't do that on that occasion - instead, it looked and felt to me like they were more interested in their own notoriety. The nonsense the whole press conference was based on and Trump's behaviour gave them ample opportunity to just give him rope to hang himself with; they didn't do that.

 

[toffee9]

What I like about Trump is that he is happy to have his decisions judged by doing them publicly. He doesn't hide things and do it all sneakily in the background like most politicians. He publicly scolds the media publicly because he thinks they deserve it. If people don't like it they can vote him out and put in a suit and we can go back to the boring press conferences. I personally prefer the combative ones, they're far more entertaining. These media people think they are some cut above deserving of some great respect and the Pres is just cutting them down to size.

This talk of holding the government to account is really the purpose of politicians, not typically media. Media does a bit of it when it actually does some investigative journalism for once and gives us some revealing information, but simply asking questions that don't elicit any useful information is just a waste of everyone's time. The primary purpose of the media is to report on the government. I just don't think many seem to do it fairly or well and that's backed up in polls that show no trust in media at all and massively declining viewer figures.

It would be so much more useful if media could ask questions of Trump that required explanations and information. That's what they should be doing and then investigating to see if the government is doing what he said and if its working or a better way is possible. The media is not a political party, yet seems to behave like the activist members of one.

 

[Moomin]

What I like about Trump is that he is happy to have his decisions judged by doing them publicly. He doesn't hide things and do it all sneakily in the background like most politicians. He publicly scolds the media publicly because he thinks they deserve it. If people don't like it they can vote him out and put in a suit and we can go back to the boring press conferences. I personally prefer the combative ones, they're far more entertaining. These media people think they are some cut above deserving of some great respect and the Pres is just cutting them down to size.

This talk of holding the government to account is really the purpose of politicians, not typically media. Media does a bit of it when it actually does some investigative journalism for once and gives us some revealing information, but simply asking questions that don't elicit any useful information is just a waste of everyone's time. The primary purpose of the media is to report on the government. I just don't think many seem to do it fairly or well and that's backed up in polls that show no trust in media at all and massively declining viewer figures.

It would be so much more useful if media could ask questions of Trump that required explanations and information. That's what they should be doing and then investigating to see if the government is doing what he said and if its working or a better way is possible. The media is not a political party, yet seems to behave like the activist members of one.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

What I like about Trump is that he is happy to have his decisions judged by doing them publicly. He doesn't hide things and do it all sneakily in the background like most politicians. He publicly scolds the media publicly because he thinks they deserve it. If people don't like it they can vote him out and put in a suit and we can go back to the boring press conferences. I personally prefer the combative ones, they're far more entertaining. These media people think they are some cut above deserving of some great respect and the Pres is just cutting them down to size.

This talk of holding the government to account is really the purpose of politicians, not typically media. Media does a bit of it when it actually does some investigative journalism for once and gives us some revealing information, but simply asking questions that don't elicit any useful information is just a waste of everyone's time. The primary purpose of the media is to report on the government. I just don't think many seem to do it fairly or well and that's backed up in polls that show no trust in media at all and massively declining viewer figures.

It would be so much more useful if media could ask questions of Trump that required explanations and information. That's what they should be doing and then investigating to see if the government is doing what he said and if its working or a better way is possible. The media is not a political party, yet seems to behave like the activist members of one.

This president does things in an open, transparent manner? Like demanding fealty from the FBI at a private dinner? Like having your pet justice secretary drop charges (without explanation) against a former aide who had confessed TWICE to said charges? Like firing officials by tweet in the middle of the night for percieved slights? Like promoting conspiracy theories?

I suppose he did call Neo Nazis "very fine people" in public and yes, you do get to see most of the workings of his brain in public, because he makes it up as he goes along.

THe role of the media in a democracy is to hold those with power, any power, to account for their actions. It is not to throw up softball questions of the ilk of "How great are you Mister President?"

 

[toffee9]

This president does things in an open, transparent manner? Like demanding fealty from the FBI at a private dinner? Like having your pet justice secretary drop charges (without explanation) against a former aide who had confessed TWICE to said charges? Like firing officials by tweet in the middle of the night for percieved slights? Like promoting conspiracy theories?

I suppose he did call Neo Nazis "very fine people" in public and yes, you do get to see most of the workings of his brain in public, because he makes it up as he goes along.

THe role of the media in a democracy is to hold those with power, any power, to account for their actions. It is not to throw up softball questions of the ilk of "How great are you Mister President?"

Firstly I don't know that any of what you are claiming that he is doing in private is true. I suspect it ain't.

However, many people seem to be criticising the President for what he is doing publicly. My question is why? The people can and will decide. I suspect they, like me, think the press are fair game and deserve the ire and disrespect that the President gives them.

The press can ask whatever questions they want, I don't care. I'm happy for them to continue to be slaughtered. However, as I said above, the people will decide and it's why they're turning their TVs off and switching channels. Trust in media has never been lower.