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Get what? How people vote?

You said he won by default. That's simply not true no matter how you look at it. Saying I'm not from that area doesnt change that either.

Many in the GOP supported moore right up until the end. Many only pulled support for him after mail in votes had already been sent. Many ignored the claims like they have done on all abuse cases and said it was fake media etc... this included Trump.

Even if the GOP did stop supporting him the people didnt. Are you purposely being ignorant or can you not see that simply by how many voted for him. Even after it was painfully clear he was a bad egg.
The way it works in the South is that is you are GOP, you will win 100% of the time if you are a decent human being. If you have any horrible dirt that comes up, you will most likely lose IE Moore losing to Doug Jones, Eddie Rispone Losing to JBE for Governor in LA. People down here are generally Catholic so they are swayed on policies or outlook of a person. Not everyone is a die hard left or right leaning person...
 
Didn’t see the response so will check it out.

Separate question. Who do you think actually has a chance regardless of the optics? Warren or Sanders are too extreme for the moderates. Biden would get eaten alive in debates. Pete doesn’t have the large scale experience, but maybe that’s a good thing?
Great question. As I stated yesterday in the Democratic Noms thread:

"Yet Booker and Harris were bounced early. I have to agree with @tsubaki we really should have an "Obama-like" person to get behind right now, but instead we have an 80 year old socialist, a life long politician who can't string 2 sentences together, and a mayor of a mid-size town. There are only two that are currently hanging around that should given serious consideration, but one of them has the charisma of a lamp post.

So it's really just Warren then. And this is why, on top of ego, a guy like Bloomberg can sit back and say, ah what the hell, I've got two live cards in this family pot, deal me in.

I really liked Harris. I guess she had some smoking guns in her past as a DA but who cares. She was obviously intelligent, which has been so sorely lacking the last 3 years.

Honestly I don't know why the DNC doesn't just throw all their weight behind Adam Schiff and just command him to run, b/c no one is gonna be riding as high as he is right now among people that hate Trump and his ilk and will bring us back to governance by adulting."

It's frustrating. On the one hand I don't think Pete has a chance in the national election b/c he doesn't have enough experience. And god forbid, he's gay. I mean people are thinking that we aren't even ready for a woman President, so are we ready for a gay one? But all that aside, I mean look who's in the WH now, he had no experience and isn't even the least bit presidential. So who knows, anything is possible. He's moderate enough to win, for sure.

I think Bernie is too closely associated with "socialism" which people don't even understand what that really means, but it won't matter. It's a taboo word here, so I think he'll lose.

Warren is on the liberal side but she's whip-smart, and unlike Sanders the establishment does't hate her as much as Sanders. So that would be a possibility. She probably has my vote right now. I live in a state where none of this matters anyway b/c our primary is so late, but if it matters at all I'm leaning her way. Despite the fact I"m more of a moderate.

I just don't want Biden. Too old. A politician's politician. I fear it would be Hillary all over gain.

I"m still up in the air on Bloomberg. He's moderate. He may have too much center-right baggage to win the Democratic nomination. He's a billionaire that's not really likable. But one thing he has in spades is the STONES to take on Trump. He'd turn it into a New York brawl. Which would be fun to watch at least. I also think he's the one guy that could seriously get under Trump's skin. As we debated yesterday, that may not translate into any votes. But he wouldn't cower in the face of Trump. He'd bring Trumps game to him.
 
The way it works in the South is that is you are GOP, you will win 100% of the time if you are a decent human being. If you have any horrible dirt that comes up, you will most likely lose IE Moore losing to Doug Jones, Eddie Rispone Losing to JBE for Governor in LA. People down here are generally Catholic so they are swayed on policies or outlook of a person. Not everyone is a die hard left or right leaning person...

Again you are changing the parameters of your initial point. You said he won by default. He didn't that was my point.

The turnout was 40% which was higher than the previous when session won in 2014. Only 700 and something thousand turned out then. In 08 it was 1.4m

So it seems the 1.2 that voted in 2017 is about normal for a turnout down there

Even without support 651,972 people voted for Roy Moore. He lost by less than 2% to Jones.

His number was not much less than the entire number of people that voted for Sessions previously.

So again it was not a walkover.

You can throw Religion or morals at me all you want but your main by was not factually accurate or correct.

Trump held a rally in Florida on December 8th telling people to go and vote for him. After all of the allegations came out.

Did you abstain then or did you vote for him?
 
Again you are changing the parameters of your initial point. You said he won by default. He didn't that was my point.

The turnout was 40% which was higher than the previous when session won in 2014. Only 700 and something thousand turned out then. In 08 it was 1.4m

So it seems the 1.2 that voted in 2017 is about normal for a turnout down there

Even without support 651,972 people voted for Roy Moore. He lost by less than 2% to Jones.

His number was not much less than the entire number of people that voted for Sessions previously.

So again it was not a walkover.

You can throw Religion or morals at me all you want but your main by was not factually accurate or correct.
Ill just do us both a favor and end this :) Agree to disagree.
 
Don’t know if she gave an official response, but reporters caught her leaving the chambers and she said had ripped it up because it was a “Manifesto of Mistruths”, and the when asked if she would invite him back to deliver the speech next year she said something to the effect of “Hopefully not, hopefully we have a new president in nine months”.
I was referring to her saying today "It was the courteous thing to do. The courteous thing to do given the alternative". Or something to that effect
 
That was a truly outrageous result, even for a deep red district.

We are doomed
He managed to convince the rural and blue collar folk via attack ads that his opponent was a muslim and that his grandfather was a terrorist so thus he was too.

Sure the guys trying to replace him on the right are already attacking each other. Both are cretins. Darrel Issa and Carl DiMaio. Issa is the guy who loves Trump and then wouldn't stand by that on Bill Maher's show. He tried to be blase. He once hid on the rooftop off his office when people where looking for him then later retired as a result of constituent pressure. He's also had many shady deals.
 
Im in Louisiana. So no I didnt vote in the Alabama election but I have many friends in the area and they voted Jones. Could back Moore after the allegations. Republicans in every election but that one.
Oh i'm sorry i thought when you said you in "this area" you meant Alabama.

Would you say those friends are like those people from the south normally you described then? As in normally wouldn't pick a sexual offender, criminal or someone of bad ilk? I'm curious what made them choose Jones then?

Given that you say the GOP gave up on him so regular conservatives did too based on their faith and morals etc...
 
Oh i'm sorry i thought when you said you in "this area" you meant Alabama.

Would you say those friends are like those people from the south normally you described then? As in normally wouldn't pick a sexual offender, criminal or someone of bad ilk? I'm curious what made them choose Jones then?

Given that you say the GOP gave up on him so regular conservatives did too based on their faith and morals etc...
Yeah they didnt like the fact that sex offender would be in office. If he got in, they wouldnt be the one to vote them in. Many people like that live in the South. They can be swayed by something like that. Back in like 2015 when Govenor Edwards in LA won, many Republicans turned their back on David Vitter (Republican) because he committed adultery. Now he is the only deep south Governor thats a Dem. Very simple mindset for people down here but its the way it works.
 
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