Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[DanEFC92]

 

[Moomin]

Chill out

Haven't called anyone terrible

Have never said how great Trump is

Have called you out for being a sheep though because that's what you are

60m people voted for him, people support him in the UK. Everyone likes diversity when it's about race, where's the diversity of thought? Why is it not okay in this thread to have different opinions? The reason no one's on this thread defending him is because people like you abuse them and call them a multi in order to shut them up. That's the definition of fascism

Has Trump ever been arrested, let alone charged for any "molestation"? Nope. Till there is, he gets the benefit of the doubt. That's how any decent society treats its people

He hasn't caged anyone. When you cross the border illegally, you have to be processed. When there are 1000s coming in every month, the system gets back logged. We know this was happening under Obama so Trump actually inherited the situation. The outrage about it should be directed at both parties who won't agree on a fix

Cussack tweeted something every bit as offensive as anything Trump has ever tweeted. It's not about Cussack though, it's the hypocrisy of it. All triggered at Trump's tweets but deadly silence when the left are being anti-Semitic. I say again, if Trump is a racist, then Omar is an anti-Semite

 

[RAFUH]

This idea of being against a policy of a government as an equivalent to being anti-the-people/religion of a country with said policy is such nonsense and very harmful. It makes discourse impossible.

It is quite possible to be against a policy of Israel without being anti-Semitic.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

This idea of being against a policy of a government as an equivalent to being anti-the-people/religion of a country with said policy is such nonsense and very harmful. It makes discourse impossible.

It is quite possible to be against a policy of Israel without being anti-Semitic.

Exactly.

Someone should really reboot humanity and uninstall the religion malware

 

[RAFUH]

Exactly.

Someone should really reboot humanity and uninstall the religion malware

It's not even just religion.

There's a subset they would call me anti-American for my views on healthcare, let alone immigration.

 

[verreauxi]

America [Poor language removed] do something about your leaders

It's tough. There are too many are selfish, frustrated, self-absorbed, compassionless idiots who get riled up about issues that have absolutely fcck-all bearing on their lives (e.g., gay marriage, immigrants, whether an athlete kneels on a flag, that a 0.01% of college kids want to be referred to in gender-neutral pronouns, etc., etc.,). Many of these folks are comfortably middle-class, so poverty isn't their motivation. It is also highly gendered in my opinion: there is something about white males wanting to play the duel role of victim-hero. The whole "I need a gun to protect my wife and family nonsense" all the while not recognizing that if no one had guns, no one would need guns, as well as the wistful nostalgia along the lines of "my dad worked in factory to provide for his family and things have changed" all the while not recognizing that 1: such by-gone blue-collar pull-yourself-up-by-the-boot-strap stories were built on liberal policies of government help that ensured things like good schools, protected well-payed workers, good infrastructure, the GI Bill, etc., and were promoted by both Democrats and Republicans (long before the Republican party got hijacked by right-wing Christian gun-nuts), or 2: that these by-gone narratives have been recently manipulated into political weapons--a common fascist tactic--to foment scapegoats, which are usually the non-majority, such as Jews or brown-skinned people. At present, most people who rail against immigration are simply NOT affected by it, unless they happen to notice a drop in strawberries in their local Whole Foods.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

It's not even just religion.

There's a subset they would call me anti-American for my views on healthcare, let alone immigration.

Agreed, though it was a more general comment on how humanity could be improved, rather than specific to the US.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Bottom line, there is no whataboutism - or managing the message - or saying he doesn't mean that he means this - or any other argument that can be made to justify the despicable things that Trump says or does. There just isn't.

Sometimes it really is just as simple as believing what you see with your own eyes, or hear with your own ears.

I think Trump has been abundantly transparent, since the very beginning of birtherism, through his presidential run, and what he's done in office, to prove what his beliefs truly are

If you don't think so, I really don't know what to tell you to change your mind. You have blinders.

Thought Adam Serwer expressed it well

 

[Tin-Tin]

This idea of being against a policy of a government as an equivalent to being anti-the-people/religion of a country with said policy is such nonsense and very harmful. It makes discourse impossible.

It is quite possible to be against a policy of Israel without being anti-Semitic.

But apparently you cant and that is the problem at the minute. So any sort of wanting a discussion on Isreal or criticising their policies is immidiately shot down as anti-semitism and stopped in its tracks. It makes them untouchable.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

It's tough. There are too many are selfish, frustrated, self-absorbed, compassionless idiots who get riled up about issues that have absolutely fcck-all bearing on their lives (e.g., gay marriage, immigrants, whether an athlete kneels on a flag, that a 0.01% of college kids want to be referred to in gender-neutral pronouns, etc., etc.,). Many of these folks are comfortably middle-class, so poverty isn't their motivation. It is also highly gendered in my opinion: there is something about white males wanting to play the duel role of victim-hero. The whole "I need a gun to protect my wife and family nonsense" all the while not recognizing that if no one had guns, no one would need guns, as well as the wistful nostalgia along the lines of "my dad worked in factory to provide for his family and things have changed" all the while not recognizing that 1: such by-gone blue-collar pull-yourself-up-by-the-boot-strap stories were built on liberal policies of government help that ensured things like good schools, protected well-payed workers, good infrastructure, the GI Bill, etc., and were promoted by both Democrats and Republicans (long before the Republican party got hijacked by right-wing Christian gun-nuts), or 2: that these by-gone narratives have been recently manipulated into political weapons--a common fascist tactic--to foment scapegoats, which are usually the non-majority, such as Jews or brown-skinned people. At present, most people who rail against immigration are simply NOT affected by it, unless they happen to notice a drop in strawberries in their local Whole Foods.

This is pretty much on point.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Chill out

Haven't called anyone terrible

Have never said how great Trump is

Have called you out for being a sheep though because that's what you are

60m people voted for him, people support him in the UK. Everyone likes diversity when it's about race, where's the diversity of thought? Why is it not okay in this thread to have different opinions? The reason no one's on this thread defending him is because people like you abuse them and call them a multi in order to shut them up. That's the definition of fascism

Has Trump ever been arrested, let alone charged for any "molestation"? Nope. Till there is, he gets the benefit of the doubt. That's how any decent society treats its people

He hasn't caged anyone. When you cross the border illegally, you have to be processed. When there are 1000s coming in every month, the system gets back logged. We know this was happening under Obama so Trump actually inherited the situation. The outrage about it should be directed at both parties who won't agree on a fix

Cussack tweeted something every bit as offensive as anything Trump has ever tweeted. It's not about Cussack though, it's the hypocrisy of it. All triggered at Trump's tweets but deadly silence when the left are being anti-Semitic. I say again, if Trump is a racist, then Omar is an anti-Semite

I don't believe Trump is racist, however, he is far worse on a number of points in my opinion.

It goes against his economic principles to be racist as people are just commodities to enrich him, their identity is just indifference of no consequence.

Trump plays with opinion and ideology for his own gain, he has no conviction or belief apart from his own legacy. He will foolishly engage with dog whistle politics because he needs to politicly engage with those Americans who are racists, who have correctly been increasingly disinfranchised from American politics from the 50s.

However, the trouble with any racist wherever they come from they are snarling full of loathing and will happily bite the hand that feeds them, they always do. Trump letting them in on democracy will come at price, as they will want their say and more, as always. Which I suspect is what is happening!

 

[tsubaki]

... and as we now know, he cannot even pronounce the name of the world's most infamous terror group - that is how anti-alcaida he is.

 

[Walken]

It's not even just religion.

There's a subset they would call me anti-American for my views on healthcare, let alone immigration.

Yeah religion is a crutch for the self serving inward attitudes projected onto these folk,if it wasn't there they'd be indoctrinated by some other format

 

[Walken]

I don't believe Trump is racist, however, he is far worse on a number of points in my opinion.

It goes against his economic principles to be racist as people are just commodities to enrich him, their identity is just indifference of no consequence.

Trump plays with opinion and ideology for his own gain, he has no conviction or belief apart from his own legacy. He will foolishly engage with dog whistle politics because he needs to politicly engage with those Americans who are racists, who have correctly been increasingly disinfranchised from American politics from the 50s.

However, the trouble with any racist wherever they come from they are snarling full of loathing and will happily bite the hand that feeds them, they always do. Trump letting them in on democracy will come at price, as they will want their say and more, as always. Which I suspect is what is happening!

I'd actually agree, however horrible they are at least racists have a consistent ethos, trump will spout whatever suits his ends

 

[sdk]

She hasn't just done that though. The others have done what you said. Omar however has called into question whether Jews are more loyal to Israel or the US and questioned whether Israel is only supported because of the money Jews have both of which are clearly antisemitic.

Though her quote has been framed that way, please note that the context of her comment suggests she was saying that not American Jews, but American evangelicals were more loyal to Israel than to the USA. And that's a point that can be argued. Over the past year the state of Texas passed a law prohibiting any state contracts going to a person or firm involved in the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement; this means residents of Texas have more constraints on criticizing Israel than they do on criticizing the USA.