Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[everton2004]

Do you think all those women are lying, mate? Do you think Ivana Trump lied under deposition?

Don't know mate, the only ones who know the truth are those involved. But the fact remains - unless Trump is convicted of what he has been accused of then he's innocent.

 

[dholliday]

Do you think all those women are lying, mate? Do you think Ivana Trump lied under deposition?

The bold is for a court to decide.


And are you even aware of this?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-wife-ivana-disavows-rape-allegation/story?id=32732204
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Ivana Trump, said today that she is "the best of friends" with her ex-husband, responding to a report in the Daily Beast on Monday that cited her 1989 divorce case deposition in which the former Mrs. Trump claimed Trump allegedly raped her once.

A statement today from Ivana Trump appeared to refute the allegations in the deposition, which were revealed in a 1993 book, "The Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump."

"I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald," she said in the statement today. "The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised 3 children that we love and are very proud of."

Ivana Trump had already walked back the rape allegation in 1993 as the book was about to be published.
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We're all entitled to our opinion tho' so go ahead and call him a rapist if you feel it bolsters your overall argument.

 

[Clint Planet]

It's important to maintain perspective on these reports. Don't jump on them to try to make them support an argument you already have in your head, i.e. Trump won unfairly thus should be unseated.

Holliday, you've lost all credibility with me. I had you down as an intelligent bloke but you've gone a bit David Icke tbh. Trump is very clearly a racist, sociopathic, opportunist sexual predator and bully - and part of the political elite! and yet you are his apologist.

Hang your head in shame.

 

[Clint Planet]

The bold is for a court to decide.


And are you even aware of this?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-wife-ivana-disavows-rape-allegation/story?id=32732204
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Ivana Trump, said today that she is "the best of friends" with her ex-husband, responding to a report in the Daily Beast on Monday that cited her 1989 divorce case deposition in which the former Mrs. Trump claimed Trump allegedly raped her once.

A statement today from Ivana Trump appeared to refute the allegations in the deposition, which were revealed in a 1993 book, "The Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump."

"I have recently read some comments attributed to me from nearly 30 years ago at a time of very high tension during my divorce from Donald," she said in the statement today. "The story is totally without merit. Donald and I are the best of friends and together have raised 3 children that we love and are very proud of."

Ivana Trump had already walked back the rape allegation in 1993 as the book was about to be published.
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We're all entitled to our opinion tho' so go ahead and call him a rapist if you feel it bolsters your overall argument.

Of course I'm aware of it.

Ivana Trump called him a rapist under sworn deposition. We can all guess why she changed her story afterwards.

And what about all those women coming forward? All liars? Right.

Good luck with all that, hombre.

 

[glorydaze]

If you think ANY politician is looking out for the working class you are sadly deluded.

 

[dholliday]

Holliday, you've lost all credibility with me. I had you down as an intelligent bloke but you've gone a bit David Icke tbh. Trump is very clearly a racist, sociopathic, opportunist sexual predator and bully - and part of the political elite! and yet you are his apologist.

Hang your head in shame.

Ok mate x


but can you or anyone, like Bill Hicks once wished regarding LSD, focus on a positive Trump story? Like this one:

Let's be kind and optimistic for a second and focus on at least one potential good thing coming up in a Trump presidency, namely this:

Donald Trump: 'We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes'

Donald Trump has laid out a US military policy that would avoid interventions in foreign conflicts and instead focus heavily on defeating Islamic State militancy.

“We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn’t be involved with,” the president-elect said on Tuesday night in Fayetteville, near Fort Bragg military base in North Carolina.

“Instead our focus must be on defeating terrorism and destroying Isis, and we will.”



“We don’t want to have a depleted military because we’re all over the place fighting in areas that we shouldn’t be fighting in. It’s not going to be depleted any longer,” he said.

Trump said any nation that shared his goals would be considered a US partner.

“We don’t forget. We want to strengthen old friendships and seek out new friendships,” he said. But the policy of “intervention and chaos” must come to an end.

While US armed forces are deployed in far-flung places around the globe, they are only involved currently in active combat in the Middle East – Iraq and Syria for the most part.

“We will build up our military not as an act of aggression, but as an act of prevention,” he said. “In short we seek peace through strength.”

Trump used similar rhetoric during the election campaign when he railed against the war in Iraq. Unusually for a Republican, Trump not only loudly expressed his dismay at George W Bush’s 2003 intervention but falsely claimed that he opposed it at the time and accused Bush of lying about the presence of weapons of mass destruction.

Trump has long expressed his skepticism about US foreign intervention in activities that he has labeled “nation building.”

He told the Guardian in October 2015: “We’re nation-building. We can’t do it. We have to build our own nation. We’re nation-building, trying to tell people who have [had] dictators or worse for centuries how to run their own countries.

“Assad is bad,” Trump added of the Syrian president. “Maybe these people could be worse.”

This is from a liberal anti-Trump/pro-Clinton paper, so no agenda for Trump at all, yet everything he's saying here is surely fantastic news. It could mean less innocent victims dying and in the long run US may no longer be seen as the great evil, which is surely what everyone wants.

Can't we get behind Trump when he has good ideas?

 

[everton2004]

Of course I'm aware of it.

Ivana Trump called him a rapist under sworn deposition. We can all guess why she changed her story afterwards.

And what about all those women coming forward? All liars? Right.

Good luck with all that, hombre.

We can all guess why she made the allegation in her sworn deposition too - in the middle of a potentially very expensive divorce. Jumping to conclusions and making up facts works both ways. You can accuse anyone of anything - but without proof it is simply an accusation, nothing more.

 

[Clint Planet]

it is simply an accusation, nothing more.

Under a sworn deposition.

 

[everton2004]

Under a sworn deposition.

I can make a sworn deposition accusing anyone of anything - it doesn't make what I state in the deposition fact. Facts like that will be determined in a court of law by a judge.

 

[tsubaki]

Of course I'm aware of it.

Ivana Trump called him a rapist under sworn deposition. We can all guess why she changed her story afterwards.

And what about all those women coming forward? All liars? Right.

Good luck with all that, hombre.

It is perhaps worth pointing out that she called him a rapist as part of a sworn petition in divorce hearings, what she did not do (it seems) is make a criminal complaint of rape against him.

That so many women have made allegations against him is concerning, but there is an appropriate system for that to be dealt with (the courts) and it is something that really should be left to them to deal with in an open, fair and impartial manner. It should not be dealt with in the media, and certainly not in the media at election time.

 

[neil999]

Ok mate x


but can you or anyone, like Bill Hicks once wished regarding LSD, focus on a positive Trump story? Like this one:

He hasnt stuck to any of his promises so far..so why would he stick to that one? the swamp draining was obvs nonsense for example

 

[dholliday]

He hasnt stuck to any of his promises so far..so why would he stick to that one? the swamp draining was obvs nonsense for example

He's not even President yet lol

 

[neil999]

He's not even President yet lol

Exactly! time to break the rest of his promises..

 

[Clint Planet]

I can make a sworn deposition accusing anyone of anything - it doesn't make what I state in the deposition fact. Facts like that will be determined in a court of law by a judge.

True. But it's worth noting that lying under oath in a deposition is a serious crime in the USA.

As for innocent until proven guilty, yes, of course, that is a cornerstone of Western legal systems and rightly so but it doesn't prevent people from forming opinions, of course. we form opinions of people based on facts, actions and anecdotes all the time.

Of course, it is only my opinion that he is a sociopathic, racist, egomaniac sexual predator but I didn't just pluck that out of thin air. There's a wealth of evidence to back my opinions up. And God knows the Donald likes to shoot from the hip with an opinion or two!

 

[JimmyJeffers]

It is perhaps worth pointing out that she called him a rapist as part of a sworn petition in divorce hearings, what she did not do (it seems) is make a criminal complaint of rape against him.

That so many women have made allegations against him is concerning, but there is an appropriate system for that to be dealt with (the courts) and it is something that really should be left to them to deal with in an open, fair and impartial manner. It should not be dealt with in the media, and certainly not in the media at election time.

Concerning??!! That and he was taped saying because he's famous he can grab woman by the [Poor language removed]. Imagine someone saying that to you in a private conversation. What would you think of them? Jesus Christ
Also would love to know how many billionaires end up in jail or have court dealings that are dealt with 'in an open fair and impartial manner'
The world has truly gone crackers