Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[TheBigIguana]

Also his DC hotel makes far more than 400k a year on the back of him being POTUS. This, of course, is illegal.

Winning the election may be the best money making move that Trump has pulled in his whole career and even the parts of it that are technically legal are almost certainly against any type of ethical code anyone could come up with.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I don't know whether Bush did because he didn't feel the need to brag about it in an attempt to show how selfless he was. Instead he did his job.

Also, given that Trump works a couple of hours a day, only seems right that he hands back most or all of his salary

 

[dholliday]

Also his DC hotel makes far more than 400k a year on the back of him being POTUS. This, of course, is illegal.

how so?

I don't know whether Bush did because he didn't feel the need to brag about it in an attempt to show how selfless he was. Instead he did his job.

oh ye gods, are you defending George W's actions as President just to get a dig in at Trump? How easily many of you have forgotten how vilified Bush was during his tenure...

Winning the election may be the best money making move that Trump has pulled in his whole career and even the parts of it that are technically legal are almost certainly against any type of ethical code anyone could come up with.

Trump is all about that winning, that's why people support him. I touched on this in the Dem 2020 thread. Winning is a vital aspect of the American Dream which is the defacto doctrine of the US folk. His ability to shake off scandals and get his way with things is impressive, we have to admit.

 

[TheBigIguana]

how so?




oh ye gods, are you defending George W's actions as President just to get a dig in at Trump? How easily many of you have forgotten how vilified Bush was during his tenure...




Trump is all about that winning, that's why people support him. I touched on this in the Dem 2020 thread. Winning is a vital aspect of the American Dream which is the defacto doctrine of the US folk. His ability to shake off scandals and get his way with things is impressive, we have to admit.

What I'm defending about Bush is that regardless of how it worked out, and often it worked out poorly, I never did nor do I now question his motivation. I truly believed he was doing his best for the country. With Trump I really don't know about that. I think his motivations are mostly selfish and I see this in that light.

I think it's more than winning that draw people to Trump. I think the barely cloaked racism and xenophobia draw in some and his taking the mantle of doing things just to anger Democrats brings in more. A lot of people where I live just have been Republicans for so long that they can't switch even when the justification is "I know he's a total idiot but he's done some ok things so it's alright." That's a quote straight from the mouth of a Trump voter in my family. The party loyalty runs deep around the country.

 

[ilikecheese]

What I'm defending about Bush is that regardless of how it worked out, and often it worked out poorly, I never did nor do I now question his motivation. I truly believed he was doing his best for the country. With Trump I really don't know about that. I think his motivations are mostly selfish and I see this in that light.

I think it's more than winning that draw people to Trump. I think the barely cloaked racism and xenophobia draw in some and his taking the mantle of doing things just to anger Democrats brings in more. A lot of people where I live just have been Republicans for so long that they can't switch even when the justification is "I know he's a total idiot but he's done some ok things so it's alright." That's a quote straight from the mouth of a Trump voter in my family. The party loyalty runs deep around the country.

It's become so polarized on the right, that anyone being critical of Trump or the Republican party are painted as a liberal.

See James Comey.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

It's become so polarized on the right, that anyone being critical of Trump or the Republican party are painted as a liberal.

See James Comey.

See: the entire FBI

 

[dholliday]

What I'm defending about Bush is that regardless of how it worked out, and often it worked out poorly, I never did nor do I now question his motivation. I truly believed he was doing his best for the country. With Trump I really don't know about that. I think his motivations are mostly selfish and I see this in that light.

I really didn't get that from him. He just sailed it while letting the others do the thinking for him (and subsequently making the decisions). Hundreds of thousands of innocent Arab civilians have died as a result of Bush Jr 'doing his job'. The fall-out of which we are experiencing today, even in Europe. Bush's successor, the sainted Obama, only managed to pour fire on the oily problem with the extension of the murderous drone programs.

I was 100% with all the anti-Bush rhetoric at the time, as his foreign policies were doing actual real damage. I'm not 100% with the anti-Trump mania as from a foreign-policy perspective he's not (yet) been as damaging as any of his predecessors. You have to go back to Jimmy Carter to find a less lethal President in matters foreign policy.

I agree with a lot of Trump-criticism, but not at the raging incessant levels it's preached, for I haven't forgotten the last 3 Presidents.

 

[TheBigIguana]

It's become so polarized on the right, that anyone being critical of Trump or the Republican party are painted as a liberal.

See James Comey.

See: the entire FBI

They're doing it to John bleeping McCain now FFS

 

[ilikecheese]

They're doing it to John bleeping McCain now FFS

Imagine that, God fearing folks speaking ill of the dead.

 

[SteveSC]

It's become so polarized on the right, that anyone being critical of Trump or the Republican party are painted as a liberal.

See James Comey.

Don't forget the many Military officials who have spoken out against him and his administration. Most of these guys worked for Republican administrations under either of the bushes or both of them.

It's an easy tactic because ignorant people will latch onto it. It gives them more evidence in their thinking that he is "draining the swamp".

I was at a party a while back and i heard a guy go as far as call one or two of them traitors. He included the FBI in that too.

The problem is many of the people critical of us on this forum on our treatment of Trump don't have to deal with it day to day. When we go to meetings, parties, public spaces and in some cases work there's more likely a chance of tension nowadays because of the views of some.

But hey the left are the enemy right and over critical as always.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I really didn't get that from him. He just sailed it while letting the others do the thinking for him (and subsequently making the decisions). Hundreds of thousands of innocent Arab civilians have died as a result of Bush Jr 'doing his job'. The fall-out of which we are experiencing today, even in Europe. Bush's successor, the sainted Obama, only managed to pour fire on the oily problem with the extension of the murderous drone programs.

I was 100% with all the anti-Bush rhetoric at the time, as his foreign policies were doing actual real damage. I'm not 100% with the anti-Trump mania as from a foreign-policy perspective he's not (yet) been as damaging as any of his predecessors. You have to go back to Jimmy Carter to find a less lethal President in matters foreign policy.

I agree with a lot of Trump-criticism, but not at the raging incessant levels it's preached, for I haven't forgotten the last 3 Presidents.

True to form you are totally missing what I'm trying to say. Bush was a bad president. He made poor choices. That does not mean he was motivated by the wrong things. Now he very well could have been but that's not how I feel. I just think he was a poor leader who made poor choices. I'm not really here to argue about the quality of his choices or really anything else Bush related. All I'm trying to say is Trump does things such bragging about giving his salary back because he's motivated by making himself look good and I don't think any other president would do that.

 

[dholliday]

True to form you are totally missing what I'm trying to say. Bush was a bad president. He made poor choices. That does not mean he was motivated by the wrong things. Now he very well could have been but that's not how I feel. I just think he was a poor leader who made poor choices. I'm not really here to argue about the quality of his choices or really anything else Bush related. All I'm trying to say is Trump does things such bragging about giving his salary back because he's motivated by making himself look good and I don't think any other president would do that.

How did I miss your point when my post spelled out why I disagree with that?

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

I really didn't get that from him. He just sailed it while letting the others do the thinking for him (and subsequently making the decisions). Hundreds of thousands of innocent Arab civilians have died as a result of Bush Jr 'doing his job'. The fall-out of which we are experiencing today, even in Europe. Bush's successor, the sainted Obama, only managed to pour fire on the oily problem with the extension of the murderous drone programs.

I was 100% with all the anti-Bush rhetoric at the time, as his foreign policies were doing actual real damage. I'm not 100% with the anti-Trump mania as from a foreign-policy perspective he's not (yet) been as damaging as any of his predecessors. You have to go back to Jimmy Carter to find a less lethal President in matters foreign policy.

I agree with a lot of Trump-criticism, but not at the raging incessant levels it's preached, for I haven't forgotten the last 3 Presidents.

God I really shouldn’t have hit that “show hidden content” button.

But you should probably tell Yemen about Trump’s foreign policy largesse.

Also:

Trump inherited Obama's drone war and he's significantly expanded it in countries where the US is not technically at war

President Trump has significantly increased the number of drone strikes in places the US is not technically at war, according to a new analysis.

www.businessinsider.com

Trump sends in the drones – Dan Froomkin's White House Watch

Second in a series: Since taking office, Donald Trump has loosened or eliminated many of the self-imposed constraints that Barack Obama instituted to manage the process of sentencing people to death from the air.

whitehousewatch.com

And then just recently he’s ended the public reporting of civillian casualties. Can’t imagine why he’d do that.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

It would be more appropriate if the letters T and U were removed from the title of this thread.

 

[dholliday]

But hey the left are the enemy right and over critical as always.

This is one thing I think we all in this thread can agree on. After Christchurch, Far Right Terrorism is very much the enemy, and more dangerous than Far Left ideology. Anyone on the Right not recognising this is plain wrong, in my opinion.