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[Ruairi77]

was, not is. The Apollo tech still is a benchmark achievement. That's not pedantry, that's the focal point of the last two pages.

ok well maybe you are going to have to explain benchmark to me

 

[Ruairi77]

i do remember space-writers dreaming of Concorde making a spaceship.

Concorde was the product, not the manufacturer - see, head wrecking, isn't it.

 

[dholliday]

ok well maybe you are going to have to explain benchmark to me

what's the benchmark (highest, best) achievement of space travel? most would say it's landing men on another planetary body and getting them back safely. With all due respect to the Mars & comet missions.

which tech has achieved this? only Apollo.

Thus Apollo is currently still the benchmark for space travel tech.

The Wright brothers were only the benchmark for however long they were the only ones to fly. They remain, however, a landmark (i.e. milestone).

 

[roydo]

that's genuinely interesting, got a link for me to read? i like stuff like that. tho' aviation isn't the same as space travel, i do remember space-writers dreaming of Concorde making a spaceship.

No, just something I picked up from a few folk who worked for an investment company that was founded by members of the NASA JPL. At the time, they did not believe it was technically possible for safe civilian air travel at supersonic speeds. For businessmen in suits sipping drinks.

They were confident in their space stuff, didnt think we and the French could trump (sic) that. We did. And they were astonished.

 

[Ruairi77]

what's the benchmark (highest, best) achievement of space travel? most would say it's landing men on another planetary body and getting them back safely. With all due respect to the Mars & comet missions.

which tech has achieved this? only Apollo.

Thus Apollo is currently still the benchmark for space travel tech.

The Wright brothers were only the benchmark for however long they were the only ones to fly. They remain, however, a landmark (i.e. milestone).

point taken.
Still doesn't change my opinion that the trump pain tweet is bonkers.
Also doesn't change my view that we shouldn't use older technology in air or space travel.

 

[roydo]

Thus Apollo is currently still the benchmark for space travel tech.

lol.

Apollo went down the garden path. Voyager I and II are still working, (just), are both outside the solar system, and will reach our nearest star in 40,000 years. Give or take.

 

[dholliday]

Concorde was the product, not the manufacturer - see, head wrecking, isn't it.

now that's pedantic

 

[Ruairi77]

lol.

Apollo went down the garden path. Voyager I and II are still working, (just), are both outside the solar system, and will reach our nearest star in 40,000 years. Give or take.

Voyager is the same age as me. It blows my mind! That photo of the little blue dot!

 

[dholliday]

lol.

Apollo went down the garden path. Voyager I and II are still working, (just), are both outside the solar system, and will reach our nearest star in 40,000 years. Give or take.

Voyager are amazing, i'm a massive fan. But the benchmark for space-travel has to be manned.

 

[roydo]

Voyager is the same age as me. It blows my mind! That photo of the little blue dot!

Same here. Pretty much. Yeah, the Family Portrait is awesome.

The guys who schooled me about Voyager/Apollo were working on Voyagers circa 1965, using graph paper and slide rules.

Blimey, just seen this is the Trump thread ffs!

 

[roydo]

Voyager are amazing, i'm a massive fan. But the benchmark for space-travel has to be manned.

Arsed what benchmark mate. Apollo was an ego trip that sucked budgets away from proper space exploration.

If manned travel is so great, why do we just have the ISS whizzing around a few dozen miles up?

 

[dholliday]

The guys who schooled me about Voyager/Apollo were working on Voyagers circa 1965, using graph paper and slide rules.

Blimey, just seen this is the Trump thread ffs!

lol we can thank the Donald himself for bringing this subject up.

If manned travel is so great, why do we just have the ISS whizzing around a few dozen miles up?

because it's bluddy difficult to achieve.

i'm sure we're on the same page, both wanting more space exploration, and i get why much of that exploration must be unmanned. but manned space travel is the dream. we may end up 'manning' it via uploaded virtual consciousness at this rate of software-development...Stephen Baxter touches on this quite a bit, as dragging our heavy sensitive bodies through the mud is just proving too difficult.

 

[roydo]

because it's bluddy difficult to achieve.

But the fellas that achieved it reckon Concorde was a greater achievement.

Its romantic, and was brilliant, but in all things Space, it was actually pretty easy. Getting the Apollo 13 crew back in one piece was harder.

 

[dholliday]

But the fellas that achieved it reckon Concorde was a greater achievem

if they said greatest aviation (mechanical flight) achievement i'm not gonna argue. but regarding greatest space travel achievement the Concorde obviously doesn't qualify.

 

[roydo]

if they said greatest aviation (mechanical flight) achievement i'm not gonna argue. but regarding greatest space travel achievement the Concorde obviously doesn't qualify.

Nor does Apollo. As the greatest space travel achievement. Its like saying Usains Bolts greatest achievement was running for his school bus.