Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I hear you, but here's where moderate Republicans are going to (or should) find the error of their ways - if whoever that is isn't standing up to Trump now (or actually probably since his election), then I think he/she is going to find an anti Trump backlash. The only way a Republican can win the national election is if they have enough anti-Trump cred to talk moderate Democrats into thinking they aren't terrible people.

I have to believe this current crop of Republicans has done irreparable harm to themselves by toeing the party line and not condemning Trump.

We shall see
if things get worse for Trump, someone like Kasich could run on an 'I told you so' ticket.
With Warren being unable to shake the Native American stuff and Sanders being hated by establishment Dems, I cant see who's going to run from the left.
We'll end up with someone like Harris, who's fine, I suppose. Maybe Hickenlooper might make a run, just bummed that when there's a tide of progressive sentiment, there doesn't seem to be a viable progressive candidate.
Apologies for the rambling post. Thinking as i type here :)
 
if things get worse for Trump, someone like Kasich could run on an 'I told you so' ticket.
With Warren being unable to shake the Native American stuff and Sanders being hated by establishment Dems, I cant see who's going to run from the left.
We'll end up with someone like Harris, who's fine, I suppose. Maybe Hickenlooper might make a run, just bummed that when there's a tide of progressive sentiment, there doesn't seem to be a viable progressive candidate.
Apologies for the rambling post. Thinking as i type here :)
I think you might be writing Warren off a bit too easily there
 


I...err...wait, what?! :Blink:

Let's redirect again to a supposed success with North Korea - first meeting yielded nothing but bluster about NK being a cooperative party, though that's been proven untrue. So, let's set up a second meeting with Kim (in Hanoi at the end of the month) looking for more bluster - his domestic agenda is going nowhere as is his Presidency, so let's look for international success - because he's had such positive results over the last two years!
 
Let's redirect again to a supposed success with North Korea - first meeting yielded nothing but bluster about NK being a cooperative party, though that's been proven untrue. So, let's set up a second meeting with Kim (in Hanoi at the end of the month) looking for more bluster - his domestic agenda is going nowhere as is his Presidency, so let's look for international success - because he's had such positive results over the last two years!

Yup. If nothing else, racist-Trump is quite Pavlovian in how he learns what pointless diversion has worked before. And his idiotic followers/defenders just lap it up.

WTF planet am I on?
 
Let's redirect again to a supposed success with North Korea - first meeting yielded nothing but bluster about NK being a cooperative party, though that's been proven untrue. So, let's set up a second meeting with Kim (in Hanoi at the end of the month) looking for more bluster - his domestic agenda is going nowhere as is his Presidency, so let's look for international success - because he's had such positive results over the last two years!
Yup. If nothing else, racist-Trump is quite Pavlovian in how he learns what pointless diversion has worked before. And his idiotic followers/defenders just lap it up.

WTF planet am I on?

Success with NK wasn't going to happen overnight. To expect so I think is a little naive.

The mere fact that NK hasn't fired a rocket in over a year is a positive, especially for the millions of people living along the Korean Pennisula.

The next summit will be interesting in terms of what remains in place from the last one and what is implemented.

Either way, Trump's avoided getting the US into a war many thought he would have done so already.

There's lots still to do, but for me the signs a positive. Not entirely a success yet, but a lot better off than where it was prior to his presidency.
 
Success with NK wasn't going to happen overnight. To expect so I think is a little naive.

The mere fact that NK hasn't fired a rocket in over a year is a positive, especially for the millions of people living along the Korean Pennisula.

The next summit will be interesting in terms of what remains in place from the last one and what is implemented.

Either way, Trump's avoided getting the US into a war many thought he would have done so already.

There's lots still to do, but for me the signs a positive. Not entirely a success yet, but a lot better off than where it was prior to his presidency.

It seems we've gotten nowhere on NK. Lots of NK's bluster occurred while Trump was in office. There was a summit that occurred in person, which was all fanfare, but NK didn't concede anything in practice (all talk, no action) and now is seeking a second summit. Take a look at this timeline below. How does one conclude we are better off with NK than previous presidencies, when it is just more of the same from NK?

 
Yup...

Sorry, Republicans. You can’t call out Northam for racism and give Trump a pass.
Finally, the GOP is calling out a chief executive for his appalling insensitivity on an issue of race: Saturday, via Twitter, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) decried that chief executive’s “past racist behavior” and said “He should resign.” In two tweets posted on Saturday, Republican Party chair Ronna McDaniel listed off what she sees as that same chief executive’s callousness on race, including, apparently, his appearance in a photo, 35 years ago in which one person is in blackface and the other is wearing a Ku Klux Klan hood. The conduct that these Republicans denounced clearly deserves condemnation, no matter how or when it occurred.

Unfortunately, they’ve reserved their scorn for one chief executive, Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam, a Democrat, and have held back when it comes to criticizing a chief executive from their own party, President Trump, for his racially divisive statements and public positions. That is naked hypocrisy.

Northam, without doubt, brought this criticism on himself: Friday he released a statement apologizing for appearing in a 1984 medical school yearbook photo “in a costume that is clearly racist and offensive,” saying, “I am deeply sorry for the decision I made.” Then on Saturday, he went before live cameras to say, “I believe then, and now, that I am not either of the people” in the photo in question. A risible, flimsy explanation, unacceptable for anyone, let alone the governor of a state.

Republicans, sensing a relatively rare moment when, for once, the other party had to own a race-relations debacle, joined Democrats in calling for Northam’s ouster. In addition to McCarthy and McDaniel, Virginia GOP chair Jack Wilson called on Northam to step down, saying the governor has “lost the moral ability” to lead. Ever since Election Day 2016, when Trump’s supporters promised he wouldn’t be as awful as his critics — including me — warned he would be, Republicans have longed for a moment when they could at least pretend to gain the high moral ground.

But while Democrats, and decent people everywhere, have a right to demand that Northam step down, Republicans who continue to support a party dominated by Trump can’t be taken seriously on this point.

Trump’s record on race-related issues is abysmal. For years, he fueled birtherism to attack President Barack Obama. He once argued that a federal judge, Gonzalo P. Curiel, couldn’t be impartial in a case involving Trump because, as Trump said, “He’s a Mexican. We’re building a wall between here and Mexico.” Early in his presidential candidacy, Trump called for a “total and complete ban on Muslims entering the country.” In office, he ruminated on the United States needing more immigrants from places such as Norway and fewer immigrants from “shithole” countries, referencing Haiti, El Salvador and African countries.

Despite polls taken at various times during his presidency that show significant percentages of Americans either see Trump as racist or, at a minimum, someone who has “emboldened” racists, the president still enjoys the support of Republicans in Congress and 78 percent approval among Republicans in the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll. For the most part, the party has indulged his race-baiting comments and his crude handling of racial issues. But somehow party leaders, who stand firmly behind him, and a national party that just passed a resolution expressing “undivided support” for him, seems to have no qualms about calling out Northam.

How Northam got all the way to the Virginia statehouse without the yearbook photo being discovered will wind up as a case study in future training for political opposition researchers and for reporters. Regardless of how it happened, it’s fair to view his inconsistent statements and conclude that he never thought he would have to explain any of this until after it became public. That disingenuousness is damning in itself, and if the voters and elected leaders of Virginia decide that this episode disqualifies him from serving honorably in office — it appears they do — that’s their choice. (I happen to agree with them.)

Democrats don’t have completely clean hands on race issues; if nothing else, the Northam episode illustrates that. But when commentators such as David Limbaugh ask if Trump supporters must “forfeit the right to pass any moral judgments” because of their continual excuse-making for him, the only reply is: yes. Criticizing Northam for “past racist behavior” and his present equivocation after more than two years of overlooking an astonishing record of divisiveness reflects little more than a self-serving, morally repellent double standard. There are plenty of good arguments for kicking Northam out of his job. The newfound racial piety of a party that sold its soul to Trump isn’t one of them.
 
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