Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Yep, the hard right and evangelicals are doing a complete shower on the states for the last couple decades. It's why Republicans often show up to vote, everyone is a single issue voter. Don't like abortion? Republican. Gun rights? Republican. Just don't like government? Republican.

The thing that infuriates me most admit evangelicals are they are the most hypocritical and spiteful group of people I've ever known. Go to church on Sundays but shout out loudly and proudly racist homophobic or whatever slogan comes out of your mouth. I asked one once why his view as a "good Christian" was against both the Bible and the Pope's view and their response was "they just can't say it publicly anymore".

The lack of critical thinking is insane with them.

Supply side Jesus

Organized Christianity has always had a very tenuous connection to what Christ actually taught, but they are a step above almost anything that has come before - even what the Spanish got up to in the New World attracted internal criticism at the time, unlike these clowns.
 
Some highlights of how Trump spent >100 Million dollars on his inauguration ceremonies (more than 2x what Obama and Bush spent):

Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a friend of first lady Melania Trump, set up an event-planning company just before the inauguration; her company billed almost $26 million. Though most of that went to subcontractors, she was paid a $1.6 million fee. Veterans of both the Obama and Bush inaugurals called that fee outrageous; it amounted to “roughly one-fourth of what we paid our entire 450-person staff” in 2009, said one Obama staffer.

∗ Trump campaign digital chief Brad Parscale, who will be managing the president’s reelection campaign, was paid more than $2 million to use his online wizardry to drum up a crowd for the inauguration. You’ll remember how that worked out.

∗ The Trump International Hotel billed the inaugural committee $1.5 million, in addition to making unspecified amounts from guests who made their own reservations.

∗ “One couple working for Winston-Wolkoff billed the inauguration $1,835 in room service charges [at the Trump International] over three days.”

∗ The committee spent $6.4 million on empty hotel rooms after guests arranged their own accommodations.

∗ Another party planner hired by Winston Wolkoff, David Monn, billed the committee $3.7 million. From the New York Times report: “Mr. Monn spent $924,000 on seven-foot-high wreaths, moss-covered obelisks, flowers and other decorations to dress up Union Station. Makeup was provided for 20 staff members at a cost of $500 per person. For the dinner at the auditorium, table menus, table numbers and place cards, including an on-site calligrapher to correct last-minute mistakes, amounted to $91 per guest.”

More here:
What Trump’s orgy of inaugural spending tells us about the people around him
 
Been doing some more research on the video of the American kids and the Native American and I get the impression we've been kinda duped by the media and social media outrage this time around.

There is a 2 hour long unedited video of it doing the rounds which kinda shines a new light on the whole situation

Copied this from another forum but its a pretty on point description of what goes down.

Theres a bunch of black israelites, either part of the native peoples thing or independent of that. They see a bunch of kids standing in a group nearby and start calling them 'incest f*ggots' and 'child molestors'. The kids start doing the 7 nation army chant and mocking the black Israelites. The black Israelites target a black kid in the group and call him a coon and the N word. The kids continue to laugh then the elder with the drum walks right up to them banging his drum in someones face and the kids are just bemused at the whole situation, then the kids leave.

Thats not some right wing spin either, it's literally what happens.

Don't get me wrong, you've got to be a bit of a nobhead to travel thousands of miles to Washington in a MAGA hat to protest abortion and that kid has the absolute definition of a punchable smug face ... but this story is a complete nothing burger and as much as it pains me to admit it, these kids have gotten a pretty rough ride due to disingenuous reporting by the media which failed to mention any of the stuff which happened before.
 
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Been doing some more research on the video of the American kids and the Native American and I get the impression we've been kinda duped by the media and social media outrage this time around.

There is a 2 hour long unedited video of it doing the rounds which kinda shines a new light on the whole situation

Copied this from another forum but its a pretty on point description of what goes down.

Theres a bunch of black israelites, either part of the native peoples thing or independent of that. They see a bunch of kids standing in a group nearby and start calling them 'incest f*ggots' and 'child molestors'. The kids start doing the 7 nation army chant and mocking the black Israelites. The black Israelites target a black kid in the group and call him a coon and the N word. The kids continue to laugh then the elder with the drum walks right up to them banging his drum in someones face and the kids are just bemused at the whole situation, then the kids leave.

Thats not some right wing spin either, it's literally what happens.

Don't get me wrong, you've got to be a bit of a nobhead to travel thousands of miles to Washington in a MAGA hat to protest abortion and that kid has the absolute definition of a punchable smug face ... but this story is a complete nothing burger and as much as it pains me to admit it, these kids have gotten a pretty rough ride due to disingenuous reporting by the media which failed to mention any of the stuff which happened before.
Many, many bad actors to go 'round and now liberal media, conservative media, public relations firms and GoFundMe gonna cash in on it.

The Black Israelites were spewing their grievances at that location long before the Covington Catholic kids showed up. Not long after the CC kids showed up the taunting went back and forth. There is plenty of video evidence of this. I don't think Nathan Phillips should have approached the kids in the way he did but the kids should not have surrounded him and taunted him either.

Phillips isn't a pitiable hero in this episode. The kids are not the blameless angels they are now portraying themselves to be. The Black Israelites (or whatever they call themselves) acted like morons. Conservative and liberal media need to shut up.

The ones who I believe could have diffused the whole situation and failed in their duty are the school's chaperones. First they let the kids wear MAGA gear they had to have known would be controversial in a city where protest is happening daily. Don't want to hear any First Amendment nonsense about this. The First Amendment protects the individual from government, not fellow citizens or your private employer. You wear your Trump gear to a protest, you are sticking it in the face of those who disagree. Don't expect protection from a contrary position, expect to be given back in kind. Any adult supervisor who does not anticipate this is inept at his/her job. Secondly, if a group of protestors is yelling expletives at the students I'm responsible for... I move the students away. Real keen insight there, eh? Wasn't done.

Shameful.
 
Many, many bad actors to go 'round and now liberal media, conservative media, public relations firms and GoFundMe gonna cash in on it.

The Black Israelites were spewing their grievances at that location long before the Covington Catholic kids showed up. Not long after the CC kids showed up the taunting went back and forth. There is plenty of video evidence of this. I don't think Nathan Phillips should have approached the kids in the way he did but the kids should not have surrounded him and taunted him either.

Phillips isn't a pitiable hero in this episode. The kids are not the blameless angels they are now portraying themselves to be. The Black Israelites (or whatever they call themselves) acted like morons. Conservative and liberal media need to shut up.

The ones who I believe could have diffused the whole situation and failed in their duty are the school's chaperones. First they let the kids wear MAGA gear they had to have known would be controversial in a city where protest is happening daily. Don't want to hear any First Amendment nonsense about this. The First Amendment protects the individual from government, not fellow citizens or your private employer. You wear your Trump gear to a protest, you are sticking it in the face of those who disagree. Don't expect protection from a contrary position, expect to be given back in kind. Any adult supervisor who does not anticipate this is inept at his/her job. Secondly, if a group of protestors is yelling expletives at the students I'm responsible for... I move the students away. Real keen insight there, eh? Wasn't done.

Shameful.

Who brings a bunch of teens from an all boys school to a pro life rally anyway??
I can only imagine what the ethos in such an establishment must be like!
 
Many, many bad actors to go 'round and now liberal media, conservative media, public relations firms and GoFundMe gonna cash in on it.

The Black Israelites were spewing their grievances at that location long before the Covington Catholic kids showed up. Not long after the CC kids showed up the taunting went back and forth. There is plenty of video evidence of this. I don't think Nathan Phillips should have approached the kids in the way he did but the kids should not have surrounded him and taunted him either.

Phillips isn't a pitiable hero in this episode. The kids are not the blameless angels they are now portraying themselves to be. The Black Israelites (or whatever they call themselves) acted like morons. Conservative and liberal media need to shut up.

The ones who I believe could have diffused the whole situation and failed in their duty are the school's chaperones. First they let the kids wear MAGA gear they had to have known would be controversial in a city where protest is happening daily. Don't want to hear any First Amendment nonsense about this. The First Amendment protects the individual from government, not fellow citizens or your private employer. You wear your Trump gear to a protest, you are sticking it in the face of those who disagree. Don't expect protection from a contrary position, expect to be given back in kind. Any adult supervisor who does not anticipate this is inept at his/her job. Secondly, if a group of protestors is yelling expletives at the students I'm responsible for... I move the students away. Real keen insight there, eh? Wasn't done.

Shameful.

I agree they aren't entirely innocent but they definitely did a lot less to garner attention/criticism than the black israelites and were on the end of far more verbal abuse than what they dished out... if the kids hadn't worn MAGA hats it wouldn't have gained any traction on social or mainstream media, thats the blunt truth of it.

They've definitely received over the top criticism relative to the other people involved who somehow got away without media shaming despite obvious racist slurs etc

Agree about the schools chaperones but it's not entirely unexpected, the school doesn't exactly have a great reputation by the sounds of it.
 
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I agree they aren't entirely innocent but they definitely did a lot less to garner attention than the black israelites and were on the end of far more verbal abuse than what they dished out... if the kids hadn't worn MAGA hats it wouldn't have gained any traction on social or mainstream media, thats the blunt truth of it.

Agree about the schools chaperones but it's not entirely unexpected, the school doesn't exactly have a great reputation by the sounds of it.
One group had microphones and speakers, the other did not, so one side is clearly going to be heard louder and more clearly than the other. That said, no question the Covington Catholic "school spirit' cheering en masse was directed by many of the kids toward the Black Israelites. Assigning a greater level of blame for bad behavior does not seem massively important to me. Aggrieved protestors encountering a much larger group of people coming upon them who are promoting (via their garb) a philosophy directly in contrast to their own is a combustible situation that should have been avoided. That is what I choose to focus on and wish was the predominant discussion point.
 
One group had microphones and speakers, the other did not, so one side is clearly going to be heard louder and more clearly than the other. That said, no question the Covington Catholic "school spirit' cheering en masse was directed by many of the kids toward the Black Israelites. Assigning a greater level of blame for bad behavior does not seem massively important to me. Aggrieved protestors encountering a much larger group of people coming upon them who are promoting (via their garb) a philosophy directly in contrast to their own is a combustible situation that should have been avoided. That is what I choose to focus on and wish was the predominant discussion point.

It does to me when only one group are getting doxed on social media and targeted by the mainstream media despite them being considerably less hostile and abusive than the other groups in the video.

I hate that im having to stick up for some MAGA dweebs but this for me is a textbook example of people not having the full facts and going straight to a massive witch hunt.
 
Yea, hard to believe that the catholic all boys school I went to in Ireland almost 30 years ago had a better moral compass than these places.
Catholic co-ed thru middle school and all-boys Jesuit thru Junior year here.

Indeed things have changed fairly dramatically here in the States with the Borg-like meshing of Modern Conservatism and Orthodox Catholicism/Evangelical Christianity. I don't recall once being asked to join a pro-life rally or any curriculum discussion of abortion in school.
 
It does to me when only one group are getting doxed on social media and targeted by the mainstream media despite them being considerably less hostile and abusive than the other groups in the video.

I hate that im having to stick up for some MAGA dweebs but this for me is a textbook example of people not having the full facts and going straight to a massive witch hunt.
I've see all sorts of media outlets and personal friends who were at first outraged retract previous statements. As for sticking up for MAGA dweebs, I see no reason to stick up for them. They behaved poorly. Now we know the Black Israelites also behaved poorly and Nathan Phillips (whatever his intent) chose poorly.

Knee-jerk media reaction and the poor behavior are different elements of the story. Fair game to call out both liberal and conservative reactionary media.
 
I've see all sorts of media outlets and personal friends who were at first outraged retract previous statements. As for sticking up for MAGA dweebs, I see no reason to stick up for them. They behaved poorly. Now we know the Black Israelites also behaved poorly and Nathan Phillips (whatever his intent) chose poorly.

Knee-jerk media reaction and the poor behavior are different elements of the story. Fair game to call out both liberal and conservative reactionary media.
The whole situation though only fans the flames of "the liberal media is against us, hates men, etc, etc, etc"

These sorts of fact embellishments and straight up lies being told in the media isn't helping our cause

And it's why I'm petrified there are enough stupid, vindictive people out there to allow this buffoon to stay in office past 2020, for no other reason than to "own the Libs"
 
The whole situation though only fans the flames of "the liberal media is against us, hates men, etc, etc, etc"

These sorts of fact embellishments and straight up lies being told in the media isn't helping our cause

And it's why I'm petrified there are enough stupid, vindictive people out there to allow this buffoon to stay in office past 2020, for no other reason than to "own the Libs"
Sad to say, I don't think there's much to be done about the 25-30% of America that still idolizes Cheeto Mussolini. So for purposes of winning election why spend any time whatsoever on people who have to be convinced a Gillette advert calling for men to behave properly and for men to hold other men accountable isn't man-bashing? It's a losing proposition. Fox News gonna Fox News.

Win the suburbs. Make an economic and social argument that appeals to the traditional liberal base as well as educated suburban folk. It is not only possible, it is begging to be done. If Beto O'Rourke can get within 3 points of Ted Cruz in Texas, that's all the evidence I need.
 
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