What's more preferable for the Democrats on here (outside of a mid-terms swing)?
- Trump is forced to resign, Pence takes over until 2020.
- Trump swats away every scandal and sees out his term.
I'm assuming the Pence option but I keep hearing he's supposed to be worse (from a conservative-policy standpoint).
Not sure it is even worth considering as the chances of Trump resigning are zero - it is not in his character, chances of getting two thirds of Senate to impeach are remote even if passes the House and if he has done something criminal then resigning would open him up to prosecution far more than staying in the job and hoping somehow to get reelected.
Here is what it did for washing machine prices for example - I unfortunately saw this first hand as I happened to be buying a Whirlpool washing machine around the time the initial tariffs were implementedThe appliance salesman was annoyed as he knew it was going to cut into his own business especially with the steel/aluminium ones impacting other things like fridges.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/17/whirlpool-thought-tariffs-would-protect
For consumers, it means the price of a new washing machine—whether made in Ohio, South Korea, or China—has jumped by about 20 percent in just a few months. That's pretty much exactly in line with what analysts predicted in January when the tariff was announced.
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"We have repeatedly stated that this tariff is a tax on every washing machine buyer in the U.S.," a Samsung spokesman told the Journal. "Since the tariff was implemented, U.S. consumers have paid more for their washing machines across all brands."
While the tariffs can be credited with pushing Sumsung to open a small manufacturing facility in South Carolina (LG is reportedly considering doing the same), the costs imposed on consumers seem to far outweigh the potential for new jobs. That's something that economists have generally agreed on ever since the Trump administration started racheting up barriers to trade: Tariffs may create some jobs, but they'll cause more to be lost.
I reckon he will win a second term......
Is that a fact 100%? I could be wrong I’m no expert on this matter, probably met only a handful of these types of people.View attachment 48129
That said, knowing many confederate flag wavers, I'd say they don't advocate a return to slavery.
Nobody is going to win a trade war. Both sides will lose. The Trump supporters will probably be too stupid to even realise they have lost since at it's most simplistic what Trump appears to be doing is "putting America first."
As a US consumer you will now be paying more for goods and services as tariffs are always passed down to consumers. In a country with no public healthcare, your tax dollars will instead be used to fund the domestic industries being ruined by retaliatory tariffs.
As a US company, if you are producing anything that requires parts, materials from overseas in production it will cost more meaning you have to either cut production or raise prices including domestically which means again higher prices for US consumers and probably jobs being lost.
The tariffs may provide a gain to specific industries targeted (steel, aluminum etc) but the overall effect on the economy will be overwhelmingly negative.
Even Fox agrees http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/24/trumps-trade-war-is-economic-suicide.html
But US trade deficit is around $800 billion, something has to give, no denying it’s an epic arm wrestle about to happen, but status Quo is going to damage USA in the long term?Nobody is going to win a trade war. Both sides will lose. The Trump supporters will probably be too stupid to even realise they have lost since at it's most simplistic what Trump appears to be doing is "putting America first."
As a US consumer you will now be paying more for goods and services as tariffs are always passed down to consumers. In a country with no public healthcare, your tax dollars will instead be used to fund the domestic industries being ruined by retaliatory tariffs.
As a US company, if you are producing anything that requires parts, materials from overseas in production it will cost more meaning you have to either cut production or raise prices including domestically which means again higher prices for US consumers and probably jobs being lost.
The tariffs may provide a gain to specific industries targeted (steel, aluminum etc) but the overall effect on the economy will be overwhelmingly negative.
Even Fox agrees http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/24/trumps-trade-war-is-economic-suicide.html
That's interesting as it seems to go against what @TheBigIguana was arguing.
Personally I can't hold a solid opinion on this as never lived in USA so am relying on you ammies! I would hope most Confederate fans wouldn't advocate a return to slavery, that at least would give us a bit more faith generally in the human race.
What's more preferable for the Democrats on here (outside of a mid-terms swing)?
- Trump is forced to resign, Pence takes over until 2020.
- Trump swats away every scandal and sees out his term.
I'm assuming the Pence option but I keep hearing he's supposed to be worse (from a conservative-policy standpoint).
That said, knowing many confederate flag wavers, I'd say they don't advocate a return to slavery.
Tacitly they are supporting slavery.
If Trump is forced out, it's likely that Pence would be guilty of the same crimes.
next up is speaker of the house.Interesting. So (hypothetically) if Trump is forced out so would Pence. Who would take the chair for the next two years?
I think only a very small minority would actually advocate a return to slavery, but it's simply not realistic because 1) the slaves were emancipated 150 years ago and 2) it's just simple not realistic/can't happenThat's interesting as it seems to go against what @TheBigIguana was arguing.
Personally I can't hold a solid opinion on this as never lived in USA so am relying on you ammies! I would hope most Confederate fans wouldn't advocate a return to slavery, that at least would give us a bit more faith generally in the human race.
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