Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Prevenger17]

I don't really like it either but sometimes it is the truth. The South founded a country to protect its enslavement of Africans as otherwise their entire economy would be wrecked (which it was after the war although losing major cities like Atlanta and Richmond didn't help.) The flag is a symbol of this country. I said in a prior post that if you don't believe me just read the declarations of secession. Many of them make it clear that slavery is a root cause. The point in all of this is that if you are flying that flag you are professing support for a movement that sought to keep Africans enslaved.

Another side point is that it also supports a country that was in open rebellion against the United States. Lots of people who fly that flag also lose their mind when someone disrespects the American flag. Hypocrisy is all around in our world nowadays

Ah fair enough, I'll brush up on my history next time

 

[LinekersLegs]

Trump really does choose the best lawyers, one who clandestinely tapes him and another who thinks “I’ve heard worse tapes from mob bosses” is a good pr strategy.

 

[Chewbacca]

Whirlpool was delighted when Trump imposed tariffs on imported washing machines, now they are the ones getting rinsed by his other tariffs,

Unexplainable? Really?

 

[Yoda]

Horrible people. I met their ilk in Johannesburg, the way they talked about black people was just sick, lacking in any humanity.

I called them out on it but just got laughed off as if I was saying silly. I've swerved well clear of such poisonous people since, fortunately in Western Europe such filth are quite rare.

I’m sure there is rampant rascism on

great post, mate

ha don’t know what happened there

 

[Yoda]

I mean what more is there to it? I can explain why but it really isn't a nuanced thing. If you fly that flag and support the confederacy then you support slavery. End.

I’m sure some do support, but would be surprised if % was in double figures. Look at the Middle East now and Africa, slavery is prevalent. No one is concerned about this in the MSM but they seem keen to push that some Confederate flag flyers are advocates of slavery.

 

[Yoda]

You self-destructed when I asked you how Trump's tariffs were going to help the USA and ended up getting all pissy. Then you disappeared. But this was the topic you chose to talk about when I asked you how Trump was helping the citizens of the USA. So are you back now to educate me on tariffs? This should be easy for you, as I've already proclaimed that I have no expertise in economics, especially global economics and trade; instead, I can only convey what I've read about. If you are back in this thread you should know that you have another opportunity to engage in discussion rather than simply accusing everyone of being young and naive and then declaring yourself the winner. If you want to choose another topic that would be fine, as I'm genuinely curious as to how you think Trump's policies are benefiting the USA.

USA tariffs redicously favour other countries, do you agree with that? Granted this is going to be an interesting tussle because all countries are going to fight for their own nationals interested. Trump (blunt and crass getting this across) is In my opinion looking
To re address the unfairness your industries face in production and it’s certainly does not seem to be a two way street in that other countries being recripocal.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Oh, lordy there was tapes.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/24/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump-tape/index.html

 

[verreauxi]

USA tariffs redicously favour other countries, do you agree with that? Granted this is going to be an interesting tussle because all countries are going to fight for their own nationals interested. Trump (blunt and crass getting this across) is In my opinion looking
To re address the unfairness your industries face in production and it’s certainly does not seem to be a two way street in that other countries being recripocal.

There is a trade deficit, to be sure, and perhaps tariffs are a way to redress that deficit but so far it seems the tariffs aren’t having much of an effect (though, granted, it is early). I suppose if Trump intends to bail out every industry where tariffs have hurt the US, as he recently did for soybean farmers, then maybe it will have the intended effects. But such bailouts can be expensive and could have been avoided if he pursued a less aggressive policy.

 

[Yoda]

There is a trade deficit, to be sure, and perhaps tariffs are a way to redress that deficit but so far it seems the tariffs aren’t having much of an effect (though, granted, it is early). I suppose if Trump intends to bail out every industry where tariffs have hurt the US, as he recently did for soybean farmers, then maybe it will have the intended effects. But such bailouts can be expensive and could have been avoided if he pursued a less aggressive policy.

Trumps aggressive stance and posturing does make for uncomfortable viewing at times, but does the tip toeing around the issue get you anywhere, it hasn’t seemed to work in the past.
Granted some industries are probably past saving but I reckon there will be a big revival
In other struggling sectors. Be interesting to see which countries blink first.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Are there any trump supporters, voters here? I'd love a conversation with you.

 

[bobbydigital]

There is a trade deficit, to be sure, and perhaps tariffs are a way to redress that deficit but so far it seems the tariffs aren’t having much of an effect (though, granted, it is early). I suppose if Trump intends to bail out every industry where tariffs have hurt the US, as he recently did for soybean farmers, then maybe it will have the intended effects. But such bailouts can be expensive and could have been avoided if he pursued a less aggressive policy.

Trumps aggressive stance and posturing does make for uncomfortable viewing at times, but does the tip toeing around the issue get you anywhere, it hasn’t seemed to work in the past.
Granted some industries are probably past saving but I reckon there will be a big revival
In other struggling sectors. Be interesting to see which countries blink first.

Nobody is going to win a trade war. Both sides will lose. The Trump supporters will probably be too stupid to even realise they have lost since at it's most simplistic what Trump appears to be doing is "putting America first."

As a US consumer you will now be paying more for goods and services as tariffs are always passed down to consumers. In a country with no public healthcare, your tax dollars will instead be used to fund the domestic industries being ruined by retaliatory tariffs.

As a US company, if you are producing anything that requires parts, materials from overseas in production it will cost more meaning you have to either cut production or raise prices including domestically which means again higher prices for US consumers and probably jobs being lost.

The tariffs may provide a gain to specific industries targeted (steel, aluminum etc) but the overall effect on the economy will be overwhelmingly negative.

Even Fox agrees http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/24/trumps-trade-war-is-economic-suicide.html

 

[tsubaki]

I’m sure some do support, but would be surprised if % was in double figures. Look at the Middle East now and Africa, slavery is prevalent. No one is concerned about this in the MSM but they seem keen to push that some Confederate flag flyers are advocates of slavery.

Confederate flag fliers are advocates of slavery.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Nobody is going to win a trade war. Both sides will lose. The Trump supporters will probably be too stupid to even realise they have lost since at it's most simplistic what Trump appears to be doing is "putting America first."

As a US consumer you will now be paying more for goods and services as tariffs are always passed down to consumers. In a country with no public healthcare, your tax dollars will instead be used to fund the domestic industries being ruined by retaliatory tariffs.

As a US company, if you are producing anything that requires parts, materials from overseas in production it will cost more meaning you have to either cut production or raise prices including domestically which means again higher prices for US consumers and probably jobs being lost.

The tariffs may provide a gain to specific industries targeted (steel, aluminum etc) but the overall effect on the economy will be overwhelmingly negative.

Even Fox agrees http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/24/trumps-trade-war-is-economic-suicide.html

Here is what it did for washing machine prices for example - I unfortunately saw this first hand as I happened to be buying a Whirlpool washing machine around the time the initial tariffs were implemented The appliance salesman was annoyed as he knew it was going to cut into his own business especially with the steel/aluminium ones impacting other things like fridges.

https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/17/whirlpool-thought-tariffs-would-protect
For consumers, it means the price of a new washing machine—whether made in Ohio, South Korea, or China—has jumped by about 20 percent in just a few months. That's pretty much exactly in line with what analysts predicted in January when the tariff was announced.

"We have repeatedly stated that this tariff is a tax on every washing machine buyer in the U.S.," a Samsung spokesman told the Journal. "Since the tariff was implemented, U.S. consumers have paid more for their washing machines across all brands."

While the tariffs can be credited with pushing Sumsung to open a small manufacturing facility in South Carolina (LG is reportedly considering doing the same), the costs imposed on consumers seem to far outweigh the potential for new jobs. That's something that economists have generally agreed on ever since the Trump administration started racheting up barriers to trade: Tariffs may create some jobs, but they'll cause more to be lost.

 

[dholliday]

What's more preferable for the Democrats on here (outside of a mid-terms swing)?

- Trump is forced to resign, Pence takes over until 2020.

- Trump swats away every scandal and sees out his term.

I'm assuming the Pence option but I keep hearing he's supposed to be worse (from a conservative-policy standpoint).

 

[LinekersLegs]

What's more preferable for the Democrats on here (outside of a mid-terms swing)?

- Trump is forced to resign, Pence takes over until 2020.

- Trump swats away every scandal and sees out his term.

I'm assuming the Pence option but I keep hearing he's supposed to be worse (from a conservative-policy standpoint).

Not sure it is even worth considering as the chances of Trump resigning are zero - it is not in his character, chances of getting two thirds of Senate to impeach are remote even if passes the House and if he has done something criminal then resigning would open him up to prosecution far more than staying in the job and hoping somehow to get reelected.