Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[toffy]

So locking them up in gaols is better than them working for themselves in communities and teaching them about the nation they have fled to?

That depends in illegal immigration v legal immigration which is another discussion that's been had elsewhere before.

Your post was fine. I just interpreted the wording of your last sentence as something which I don't think you were intending. That's all. Other's likely interpreted different to how I did.

 

[McBain]

That depends in illegal immigration v legal immigration which is another discussion that's been had elsewhere before.

Your post was fine. I just interpreted the wording of your last sentence as something which I don't think you were intending. That's all. Other's likely interpreted different to how I did.

All good. I've met lots of refugees tbf, particularly from Iraq / Assyria. I really do believe there is a system we haven't tried yet to get them into the community properly and alls it's going to take is a good re-think and some proper investment.

 

[mezzrow]

I want him out here, but the issue is a media member saying we have to make them pay politically. He's not just talking Trump, he's talking midterm elections. How he speaks is what has alienated so much of the right and allowed for someone like Trump to rise to his popularity.

If the GOP didn't use that to slam NBC over and over again, they'd be fools.

I can't believe he said that. What a complete moron.

All the opposition really has to do is not go crazy, but they can't do that. I keep saying this in a lot of different ways here. We would have had a conventional Republican if the powers that be hadn't decided to grease the rails for Hillary by giving her Trump to run against. She might not have beaten a generic Republican candidate, but would that have been worse than this? Perhaps this is this century's greatest example of "be careful what you wish for." The Democrat/media complex went 24/7 for Trump during the 2016 primaries, while they knew they couldn't control or contain him because Trump. His victory was (wait for it) "inconceivable". They fear in their hearts that they are the ones most responsible for the Trump phenomenon. I remind you that all this could have been avoided if HRC had simply used government servers and standard State department procedure for electronic communications. Instead, she did what she always does because she perceived an advantage she did not want to give up by doing so. Why? Because she could. None dare refuse.

We should have expected something like the "save the children" effort to drop as the evidence surrounding Strzok/McCabe/Comey etc. continues to come out. This was built and rolled out to meet a need, using the materials at hand to build the image of Snidely Trump tying brown babies to the railroad tracks. We've seen the processions from Central America making their way through Mexico to set the stage in our news and yours.

The specifics on the Time cover photo is being spun furiously and effectively right now to Trump backers and likely will fit perfectly into Trump's growing narrative as the victim (intake of breath) of a malevolent establishment that wishes to replace hard working Americans with credulous and compliant "illegals" which then be amnestied in just in time for the upcoming 2020 elections. Trump has a narrative too, and the actions of his opposition help him built his own story. It is true? No. Will it work? probably. You're not helping yourselves.

Meanwhile:

 

[LinekersLegs]

We should have expected something like the "save the children" effort to drop as the evidence surrounding Strzok/McCabe/Comey etc. continues to come out. This was built and rolled out to meet a need, using the materials at hand to build the image of Snidely Trump tying brown babies to the railroad tracks. We've seen the processions from Central America making their way through Mexico to set the stage in our news and yours.
2[/MEDIA]

You genuinely don’t think kids being separated from their parents for extended periods and little plans for reuniting isn’t a legitimate issue for both public and press to be concerned about?

 

[mezzrow]

You genuinely don’t think kids being separated from their parents for extended periods and little plans for reuniting isn’t a legitimate issue for both public and press to be concerned about?

And then we're into "it's a matter of degree" and I'm busy lighting the fuse for the bomb we left next to little Rosa tied to the tracks. Not going to play that game.

Call me names. Not going to play. I see what's being done here.

 

[abelard]

And then we're into "it's a matter of degree" and I'm busy lighting the fuse for the bomb we left next to little Rosa tied to the tracks. Not going to play that game.

Call me names. Not going to play. I see what's being done here.

Of course. You're the real victim here.

This is the essence of the entire Trump Presidency.

 

[LinekersLegs]

And then we're into "it's a matter of degree" and I'm busy lighting the fuse for the bomb we left next to little Rosa tied to the tracks. Not going to play that game.

Call me names. Not going to play. I see what's being done here.

So not prepared to offer any evidence in support of your “it’s all a vast conspiracy to hide the IG report” theory then?

OK mate.

 

[mezzrow]

Of course. You're the real victim here.

This is the essence of the entire Trump Presidency.

Why should they change? It's working. See what I just did here?
I'm strongly in favor of legal, controlled immigration. No little girl should have to be dragged to the border as a get out of jail free card. Life is suffering, and the mother who put her kid in that place was trying again to get here, because that's where she sees hope. I'm fine with letting that happen, but there's a process, and this doesn't cut it as a workaround. Everyone in a developed nation will have to build a strategy for the triage of the border control process. This is an issue that will get much worse before it will ever get better. Some feel that using this as a club to beat Trump and his supporters into shape is a good strategy.

It just gives the folks out on the edge of the right more gravitas when the righteous press looks at Trump supporters and those in the gray middle and tells them that they are moral cowards not to hate Trump like we do because look at this picture of suffering. This is then interpreted by the recipients as "they hate us and will grind us to dust when they take control." The cynical right rolls up the harvest, and you do their work.

Meanwhile:

 

[toffy]

Why should they change? It's working. See what I just did here?
I'm strongly in favor of legal, controlled immigration. No little girl should have to be dragged to the border as a get out of jail free card. Life is suffering, and the mother who put her kid in that place was trying again to get here, because that's where she sees hope. I'm fine with letting that happen, but there's a process, and this doesn't cut it as a workaround. Everyone in a developed nation will have to build a strategy for the triage of the border control process. This is an issue that will get much worse before it will ever get better. Some feel that using this as a club to beat Trump and his supporters into shape is a good strategy.

It just gives the folks out on the edge of the right more gravitas when the righteous press looks at Trump supporters and those in the gray middle and tells them that they are moral cowards not to hate Trump like we do because look at this picture of suffering. This is then interpreted by the recipients as "they hate us and will grind us to dust when they take control." The cynical right rolls up the harvest, and you do their work.

Meanwhile:

In relation to th Sanders incident. It's the same sort of behaviour which lends itself to racial discrimination and the like. The very sort of behaviour such people I've been led to believe are so strongly against and critical of Trump for.

 

[DanEFC92]

In relation to th Sanders incident. It's the same sort of behaviour which lends itself to racial discrimination and the like. The very sort of behaviour such people I've been led to believe are so strongly against and critical of Trump for.

Did you show concern about the risk of that during the whole baker refusing to bake a cake for a homosexual couple debacle ?

 

[Ruairi77]

Alienating our allies,
Ruining our international reputation
Having more and more of his administration arrested,
Constant lying,
Using the presidency for personal financial gain,
Appointing a disastrous cabinet.
Ruining the acceptable standards of the office.
Xenophobia and racism.
And on and on
The office will never be the same again

And the two of you are scanning the internet for weak examples of the opposition doing something wrong. It’s not a left v right thing, it’s a decency thing.
Stop wasting your time looking for non existent equivalences and do your bit to get this parasite out of office.

 

[SteveSC]

In relation to th Sanders incident. It's the same sort of behaviour which lends itself to racial discrimination and the like. The very sort of behaviour such people I've been led to believe are so strongly against and critical of Trump for.

To echo what @DanEFC92 pointed out.

Republicans and conservatives a like have argued for the last year that businesses have the right to refuse service if it does not fit their beliefs. Right or wrong the owner of this establishment decided he thinks she is immoral and thus going on the narrative of recent times spouted by the right has every right to turn her down. Remember the Supreme court agreed with the baker by the way setting a precedent.

 

[LinekersLegs]

I dislike people being refused service based purely on their politcal beliefs whatever they may be.

I dislike kids being put in cages or separted from their families whichever politcal party does it.

I would hope (probably naively) that everyone of all politcal views could, whilst condeming both practices, understand that one is going to end in a bigger trauma so deserves more focus.

 

[DanEFC92]

I dislike people being refused service based purely on their politcal beliefs whatever they may be.

I dislike kids being put in cages or separted from their families whichever politcal party does it.

I would hope (probably naively) that everyone of all politcal views could, whilst condeming both practices, understand that one is going to end in a bigger trauma so deserves more focus.

Yeah, I'm not going to talk about the kids in cages.

But have you seen Sanders not eating at a fancy restaurant for one night???

 

[LinekersLegs]

Yeah, I'm not going to talk about the kids in cages.

But have you seen Sanders not eating at a fancy restaurant for one night???