Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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The reason no president has met with NK before is that it legitimises the regime. It gives NK the thing that they want the most - the prestige and propaganda of sitting down with the POTUS. By meeting KJU, Trump is giving him equal status as a state leader. When Clinton was president he was smart enough to send an envoy to find out what deal was on the table before deciding to decline NK's invitation.

Just look at how the White House is trying to walk back on what Trump said. The press briefing yesterday added all sorts of caveats to a meeting taking place, which essentially adds up to what every administration before has said. Trump, as usual, jumped the gun and shot his mouth off after NK offered a meeting. Does the US even have an ambassador on the Korean peninsula right now?!

Obama, who was generally the most open president towards meeting old foes said of NK: "Since I came into office, the one thing I was clear about was, we're not going to reward this kind of provocative behaviour. You don't get to bang your spoon on the table and somehow you get your way."

I know most people won't remember this, but Obama was slated by both Republicans and Democrats when he suggested that he would be in favor of meeting with the renegade leaders without preconditions.
 
The reason no president has met with NK before is that it legitimises the regime. It gives NK the thing that they want the most - the prestige and propaganda of sitting down with the POTUS. By meeting KJU, Trump is giving him equal status as a state leader. When Clinton was president he was smart enough to send an envoy to find out what deal was on the table before deciding to decline NK's invitation.

Just look at how the White House is trying to walk back on what Trump said. The press briefing yesterday added all sorts of caveats to a meeting taking place, which essentially adds up to what every administration before has said. Trump, as usual, jumped the gun and shot his mouth off after NK offered a meeting. Does the US even have an ambassador on the Korean peninsula right now?!

Obama, who was generally the most open president towards meeting old foes said of NK: "Since I came into office, the one thing I was clear about was, we're not going to reward this kind of provocative behaviour. You don't get to bang your spoon on the table and somehow you get your way."

How did Clinton's deal work out for everyone ?

You can't keep doing the same approach with this regime and expect something different.

Let's just wait and see what happens should the meeting go ahead before getting ahead of ourselves.
 
How did Clinton's deal work out for everyone ?

You can't keep doing the same approach with this regime and expect something different.

Let's just wait and see what happens should the meeting go ahead before getting ahead of ourselves.

Bet you weren't in support of it when Obama said he favored meeting with the leaders of NK, Cuba, and Iran back in 2007.

He was slated by both parties.
 
Bet you weren't in support of it when Obama said he favored meeting with the leaders of NK, Cuba, and Iran back in 2007.

He was slated by both parties.

Why do many on the left continually assume ?

One of Obama's biggest critics at the time was Clinton.

I don't take the opinion or position that you can't meet with and negotiate with such regimes like Bush and Clinton asserted. The nature of international diplomatic relations nowadays is that you must be willing to meet and negotiate.

However the difference I believe here is Trump is playing the stronger hand than those of previous administrations which will ultimately yield more success.
 
Why do many on the left continually assume ?

One of Obama's biggest critics at the time was Clinton.

I don't take the opinion or position that you can't meet with and negotiate with such regimes like Bush and Clinton asserted. The nature of international diplomatic relations nowadays is that you must be willing to meet and negotiate.

However the difference I believe here is Trump is playing the stronger hand than those of previous administrations which will ultimately yield more success.

As I said it was a bipartisan slating.

I suppose the same thing happened this time though, in that team Trump are now claiming preconditions will have to be met.

The assumptions are based on 8 years of virtually 100% opposition to anything Obama tried to accomplish from the Right, and 24/7 negative coverage by mainstream right wing media. FYI Fox is MSM.
 
I wonder sometimes if Trump supporters think of him like the soap opera they enjoy with WWF? I mean going to a rally and booing Kim Jong Un takes juvenile to a whole other level.

He is running it as a reality show.

He has smart people in his camp dedicating their lives to brainwashing poor people in rural America that 'entitlements' are an evil thing.
 
‘Mr Ross, said the EU will not follow through on any trade threats.

"There is a whole process they (EU) have to go through if they want to push through any retaliation measures under the WTO rules.

"Unless the EU are going to violate the WTO, this is not going to be an instantaneous thing.

"Under the WTO rules, the EU cannot put in these kinds of tariffs except after the WTO has found that the move by the U.S. violated the WTO rules.

"I think it's highly unlikely that the WTO will think that it can tell the United States government what's in its national security interest."

Bullies always end up meeting bigger bullies.......as the EU is finding out......
 
I wonder sometimes if Trump supporters think of him like the soap opera they enjoy with WWF? I mean going to a rally and booing Kim Jong Un takes juvenile to a whole other level.

I'd bet my balls that there are plenty of adults in the US that are convinced that the wrestling is 'real.'
 
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