neil999
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we need some politicians to emerge to give us hope, where/who are they?
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we need some politicians to emerge to give us hope, where/who are they?
It's a very valid argument IMO, but opinions are opinions.
neil999
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i dont have to agree on anything...
CahillsCornerFlag
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First of all you need to produce an actual statistic to be taken remotely seriously.
Secondly, you're comparing something which is out of your control, to something which they potentially can control, but you're just choosing not to control. Additionally, it seems odd to ignore anything which can saves lives, just because its statistically less likely to happen. Anyway, as @Prevenger17 pointed out, there's far more too it than just security concerns.
I got him at 6/1 yesterday morning. Unfortunately, only put a tenner on :/
I was asked about terrorism, so I responded about terrorism. I've written numerous times in the Brexit thread about the other things.
Trump to win Ohio was 4-1, all the odds heavily backed Clinton. bookies obviously using data from the exit polls which didn't reflect the real vote.
A good lesson to be learnt from all this.
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Clinton represented continuity and big business, she had nothing new to offer.
Even though I was increasingly astounded hour by hour like most others watching, Trumps victory really isn't all that surprising.
It was a straight headcount of mostly the white underclass vs. everybody else (and the celebrities), and Trump still got the core Republican vote out.
It was a billionaire offering change, but change nonetheless, as faux and dubious as it is.
What he manages to do for the constituency that voted for him, if anything, is another matter altogether.
I thought to myself I would have considered voting for him if I was there, given the desperate choice available. Particularly if I was unemployed or in low-paid, unsecure employment, or elderly. What easy prey.
No wonder scores of people wouldn't admit their voting intentions to pollsters, or to a liberal media that regards them as racist and backward.
For a lot of people now the prospect of high-risk change is better than stale continuity and same old same old.
Politicians have hijacked the centre and consensus/middle-ground politics has just been reduced to ensuring economic stability at the expense of the vulnerable.
Nothing is done that would risk alienating the markets, investors, vested interests, and/or minorities. Yet this is presented as advocating for middle-class interests, and "hard-working families" that new Labour was aimed at. Look where that ended up.
Even though I was increasingly astounded hour by hour like most others watching, Trumps victory really isn't all that surprising.
It was a straight headcount of mostly the white underclass vs. everybody else (and the celebrities), and Trump still got the core Republican vote out.
It was a billionaire offering change, but change nonetheless, as faux and dubious as it is.
What he manages to do for the constituency that voted for him, if anything, is another matter altogether.
I thought to myself I would have considered voting for him if I was there, given the desperate choice available. Particularly if I was unemployed or in low-paid, unsecure employment, or elderly. What easy prey.
No wonder scores of people wouldn't admit their voting intentions to pollsters, or to a liberal media that regards them as racist and backward.
For a lot of people now the prospect of high-risk change is better than stale continuity and same old same old.
Politicians have hijacked the centre and consensus/middle-ground politics has just been reduced to ensuring economic stability at the expense of the vulnerable.
Nothing is done that would risk alienating the markets, investors, vested interests, and/or minorities. Yet this is presented as advocating for middle-class interests, and "hard-working families" that new Labour was aimed at. Look where that ended up.
tsubaki
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Of people who have been refused leave to remain / thrown out after conviction? Probably hundreds of thousands.
Well, there are typically around 10-15 cycling fatalities in London per year, or 113 in Britain as a whole, with a proportionally higher chance of some kind of injury. That compares to the solitary murder of Lee Rigby this decade.
That doesn't sound very scientific.
deipnosophist
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Recent political outcomes suggest you are cycling in the minority
Feel for the losing voters, I can sympathise, I don't think I've ever been on the winning side of an election since I've been of legal voting age
I mean, I technically "won" in 2010 as I voted Lib Dem, but it sure didn't feel like a win
I mean, I technically "won" in 2010 as I voted Lib Dem, but it sure didn't feel like a win
neil999
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e(probably) =mc2
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