Do our players think they're better than they really are?

[Elong]

I'd think I was the second coming if I was lavished as phenomenal every day.

GOT.com is a phenomenal website, potentially world class.

 

[micknick]

My first point is I actually think our players are low on confidence after not playing to their abilities this season and in fact they think that maybe they arent as good as they actually are, maybe?

My second point is why cant anyone spell Mirallas?

 

[Pabbers]

Maybe with Kev yes.

But imo Rom can be as good as any striker on the planet, watch him slot for a CL side that play to his strengths.

 

[degsy]

some do think they are better than they are; Martinez Miralles, Barry...maybe Lukaku
some don't yet know how good they could be

 

[summerisle]

GOT.com is a phenomenal website, potentially world class.

Unfortunately it's looking to join a top website so it can grow,develop and achieve success in Europe.

 

[ijjysmith]

Unfortunately it's looking to join a top website so it can grow,develop and achieve success in Europe.

GOT is in a great moment.

 

[Elong]

GOT is in a great moment.

It's exciting.

 

[summerisle]

It's exciting.

Too many posters at the moment are drained of confidence.

 

[ah11984]

Maybe with Kev yes.

But imo Rom can be as good as any striker on the planet, watch him slot for a CL side that play to his strengths.

Loooooooong, long way to go and a lot of improvement needed before he can be considered as that.

 

[Pabbers]

Loooooooong, long way to go and a lot of improvement needed before he can be considered as that.

Indeed, but I think he can be. He is apparently rubbish....but still scoring.

With an actually creative midfield around him, he would slot for fun.

 

[JAYTALITY]

The two Belgians definitely do. I think Howard is entitled to think he's decent as he has good international pedigree and has performed well at Premier League level over many years.

Barkley is the polar opposite - I don't think he believes in his head how good he actually is. Barry is good but age is catching up, and he's exposed by the awfulness of the team as a whole.

But it's difficult to say overall. Look at Baines and Coleman for example. They have both been awful all season, yet we don't know if it's because they're not as good as we thought, or because the system and overall team performance has basically killed them off.

Coleman is a fantastic player I don't think we can doubt that. I dono what's going on this season put he has proven himself over the last 2/3 years. Some of the things he has produced as a right back have been electric. Same for Baines. I definitely agree with everything else you said.

 

[1966efc]

I'd think I was the second coming if I was lavished as phenomenal every day.

G O T is a diamond of English fan sites.

 

[MACCA75]

Kev can be a top player - I just wish he'd get the odd 90 minutes. See also Besic.

 

[mkrudden]

I think it's probably safe to say that there are a number of Evertonians that vastly over rate our players. Nothing wrong with that in my mind. It's harmless and giving support to players is generally good.

But do the players themselves think they are better than they truly are?

I'm looking at:

Mirallas - reckons he's good enough for the Champions League even though he can't play more than 4 games in a row without being a fanny.
Lukaku - spouting rubbish about wanting to play for a huge club
Howard - walks back into the starting line up despite being poop all season (admittedly not his fault but may give him the feeling he's better than he is)
Barkley - does he think he's as good as he is?
Barry - Plays every game

There are probably more examples.

Not sure the reasons for these three? After all, the manager picks Howard and Barry, we never hear them spouting in the press.

And Barkley is just going through a moment that Sterling had last season. He will be back soon enough

 

[Little Ralphy]

Loooooooong, long way to go and a lot of improvement needed before he can be considered as that.

That's why he's only 21. To be fair to him at his age none of the top strikers were doing as well as he is now. He's by no means the finished article, but if he was then he wouldn't be playing for us.