Defending Set Pieces

[Eggs]

..I honestly think it’s more about players than system.

 

[Azzurri]

Has any successful team used zonal marking? Never seen it deployed well.

However, don't think it helps that we have a very small team.

Barcelona, Madrid, Benitez’s Valencia, to an extent Benitez’s Liverpool.

 

[aazak]

Cheese on toast.

Either done properly is great, done badly is bad. If we learn and work on it, it will be fine. If not, it will be Martinez.

Man City, for example, don't concede from them.

https://www.esdfanalysis.com/set-piece-analysis/manchester-city-defensive-corner-analysis/

 

[Azzurri]

I don’t think zonal is particularly the problem, just execution. Twice Tosun has been slow to get away from the space in front of the near post and played someone onside for a tap in. Whether they’d have been marked anyway in a man to man system is a question, of course.

A mix makes sense to me. Our best headerers (?) mark their danger men, the others attack space. I think zonal marking gets a slightly unfair reputation, as set piece goals are conceded all the time by teams who mark man to man and the system itself is never blamed, as it invariably is when the other way.

 

[Yankfootball1]

Tosun very lazy at their second, both goals could easily have been avoided today. Frustrating.

He was lazy twice. That was his zone to clear both times and was beaten to the ball. Lucky not to be punished twice

 

[Number_25]

Allardyce's method of putting every single one of our players in the box when defending set pieces worked.

 

[Ring master]

that 2nd goal today from the corner was just stupid,no one on any post,and would for a cert have been cleared [if a player stayed on post],will always be man to man for me,imagine when we play proper teams etc.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Allardyce's method of putting every single one of our players in the box when defending set pieces worked.

Yes let's do that instead. Who needs to score goals.

 

[ilikecheese]

Hate zonal marking myself.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

Zonal should be scrapped

 

[KaiserEFC]

We don’t defend them. That’s the issue.

 

[Lanolin]

Regardless of system, everybody needs to be switched on and doing their job, which just isn’t the case at the moment. Tosun has been sleeping, and everybody seems rooted to the spot when the back is travelling. 3 of their players could have got that loose ball before any of ours today, which is just not good enough.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

Allardyce's method of putting every single one of our players in the box when defending set pieces worked.

No it didn't. We were crap at set pieces with him, too. It's the personnel. Keane isn't quick and the rest of the team is crap in the air. Put Mina, Digne in there and we are massively improved. Put Gomes in there instead of Davies, also improved.

 

[Tubey]

I've never seen a consistently solid looking zonal marking system. Even the biggest and best clubs who use it look vulnerable to set pieces due to it more often than not.

 

[havrey0123]

..I honestly think it’s more about players than system.

Silvas teams have shipped in goals which ever team he had managed.
He needs to learn you can't just turn up and dominate every team and play a high line every time