David Unsworth appreciation thread

[chicoazul]

Every managerial appointment is a risk. You have to make a judgement on the person concerned. If you don't risk anything then frankly you're never going to achieve anything. We've got a situation where we could sack Koeman, who's taking us nowhere, and give Unsworth a go until the end of the season. We'll know then if he's up to the job and if not we've got the end of the season to get the right man in. Keeping Koeman is a strategy that gets us nowhere. Cool heads and all that

Take what you’re saying but the chances of it being a success are incredibly limited, and to the end of the season from October is a huge risk with a squad of big signings that didn’t sign for the manager.

The level we are at it would be prudent to pay for experience and proven success.

 

[Goat]

Well if Liverpool thought like that they wouldn't have won 6 league titles, 3 European cups and 1 UEFA cup would they?
Now to be fair that would've been great from an Everton point of view.

In the 1960s it was only a 1 in 1300 chance.

Now their history isnt really my thing, but I do recall that Paisley was assistant to Shankly prior to him getting the job? And im almost certain Liverpool had won the League the season or the season before he took over, its not like he was taking over a potless club for 22 years.

 

[chicoazul]

Lads what we are really trying to say is chill them beans a lil.

You gon loco.

 

[jceverton]

The thing is mate, most people currently want Koeman sacked. Now yes Unsy is a blue and you would hope he would be given time, but time is a luxury that very, very few modern Premier League managers get, Moyes got plenty of time, Martinez did as well to be fair and would assume Koeman will get a little bit longer.

Could Unsworth do a good job? Well nobody knows, cos as Azul pointed out above hes never actually managed a senior side, could I do a good job? Who knows, so why not just appoint me? Why is Unsworth a better option than you? Or me? Or even Joey? We are all blues, none of us have managed in the league.

Roll the dice and appoint me, I won the league on FM once in my first season as Everton, now granted I cheated a little bit and signed Zlatan and gave Joao Moutinho 199 CA, but im as qualified as Unsworth!!!

Ricky Sbragia was the last winner of the U21/U23 league to be given a top flight job, he lasted 8 months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Sbragia

You were doing okay there until your second paragraph, then it went downhill rapidly. Could he do a good job, yes I think he could but I don't know it until he's given a go and we see how he gets on. There's a fair bit of evidence that indicates he could do a decent job certainly more than there is that you could - bottom line on this is that I don't think we've got much to lose by giving him a go on a temporary basis because we're going nowhere with Koeman.

 

[Goat]

Im gonna chill my beans, I feel like im just bashing Unsworth, I like the fella, so I will CEASE!

 

[Connor]

WE'RE EVERTON, WE EXPECT TO WIN GAMES.

 

[jceverton]

In the 1960s it was only a 1 in 1300 chance.

Now their history isnt really my thing, but I do recall that Paisley was assistant to Shankly prior to him getting the job? And im almost certain Liverpool had won the League the season or the season before he took over, its not like he was taking over a potless club for 22 years.

No he wasn't taking over a potless club but he managed, in a far more level playing field to turn them into the dominate club in England and Europe. No mean feat from someone who'd never managed before and something that Shankly couldn't do.

 

[Nymzee]

There is pretty much zero pressure to win in academy football; completely different scenario if he was first team manager.

 

[jceverton]

Thought of one of course. Took over a rank average team after coaching the youth team and let them to 3rd place finish in the Prem.

Mike Walker!

Haha - quality! Looking back on it he most probably clicked with a lot of the younger players and didn't have any expectations to deal with. Once he had the expectations and was taken out of that environment he couldn't cope with the situation.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

You were doing okay there until your second paragraph, then it went downhill rapidly. Could he do a good job, yes I think he could but I don't know it until he's given a go and we see how he gets on. There's a fair bit of evidence that indicates he could do a decent job certainly more than there is that you could - bottom line on this is that I don't think we've got much to lose by giving him a go on a temporary basis because we're going nowhere with Koeman.

For me the problem with 'giving him a go' as you put it is that his inexperience could cost us our league place, that's a hell of a gamble for our owners to take. Unfortunately we can't see into the future and any managerial appointment carries a big risk. I would expect our custodians to control that risk as much as possible by appointing an experienced manager anything less would be a dereliction of duty and they would be heavily criticised for it. Professional gamblers don't go for the longest odds and Unsworth is long odds.

 

[jceverton]

There is pretty much zero pressure to win in academy football; completely different scenario if he was first team manager.

Yeah but Unsworth has always been great at dealing with pressure. As a young player he was one of the few that didn't fall to bits under the relegation fight with Walker. He showed no nerves when playing under pressure against Mark Hughes in the FA cup final. He was cool under pressure as a penalty taker. On a personal level I think he seems to deal with pressure very well.

 

[Nymzee]

Yeah but Unsworth has always been great at dealing with pressure. As a young player he was one of the few that didn't fall to bits under the relegation fight with Walker. He showed no nerves when playing under pressure against Mark Hughes in the FA cup final. He was cool under pressure as a penalty taker. On a personal level I think he seems to deal with pressure very well.

All well and good but you don’t get the pressure of being sacked as a player after 3 straight defeats. 3 straight defeats in youth football and no one really bats and eyelid. 3 straight defeats as Everton manager and if your name is Ronald Koeman you apparently should be sacked.

Think people need to look at the bigger picture with no blue-tinted glasses on.

 

[jceverton]

For me the problem with 'giving him a go' as you put it is that his inexperience could cost us our league place, that's a hell of a gamble for our owners to take. Unfortunately we can't see into the future and any managerial appointment carries a big risk. I would expect our custodians to control that risk as much as possible by appointing an experienced manager anything less would be a dereliction of duty and they would be heavily criticised for it. Professional gamblers don't go for the longest odds and Unsworth is long odds.

With the squad of players that we have we shouldn't be under pressure of relegation with a competent coach. Unsworth is more than competent. Frankly could he do worse than Koeman, I don't think he could! He's also got the experience of Joe Royle to call on.

 

[Papa Shango]

Thats right, compare the old first division with the modern day Premier League.

Cos they are totally relevant.

Also Paisley took over a winning side...

 

[jceverton]

All well and good but you don’t get the pressure of being sacked as a player after 3 straight defeats. 3 straight defeats in youth football and no one really bats and eyelid. 3 straight defeats as Everton manager and if your name is Ronald Koeman you apparently should be sacked.

Think people need to look at the bigger picture with no blue-tinted glasses on.

Koeman isn't under pressure because he's lost 3 games. He's under pressure because he's blown £220 million, has no discernible pattern of play, his signings make no sense as does his team selection and tactics. His football is dire and the players don't seem to want to play for him. Add to that the fact that he doesn't seem to get Everton and goes off on a jolly at the drop of a hat! Those are the reasons why he's under pressure. If you can deal with pressure as an individual then you can deal with it as a manager.