2025/26 David Moyes

[hallamblue]

….but it’s not ‘flatline stability’, we’ve clearly progressed under Moyes. He’s only had one summer window and inherited a squad used to relegation battles. What you assume is that we won’t progress again next season.

Time will tell.

The 3rd worst home record in the history of the club is clear progress?

 

[Eggs]

The 3rd worst home record in the history of the club is clear progress?

….i think so, I’m sure I read teams usually struggle moving into new stadia.

 

[John from Bootle]

The 3rd worst home record in the history of the club is clear progress?

You don't look at this team and see a clear route to improving it? I mean don't get me wrong, we could see how it could be improved under the previous manager, but every man and his dog knew that would need 2 new strikers, a new midfield make-up, new full backs, and wingers. We've clearly progressed beyond that now 4 or 5 players is what we need now.

 

[DayL08]

There’s also a portion of the fanbase who think because we haven’t flirted with relegation for the first time in like a decade, and we spent a bit of money last summer (but still not making up for the negative net spend in the previous years and 10 players to replace), we should now be winning things and for some reason think changing managers will make that happen.

Yeah, we could do a palace, win an fa cup out the blue, play in the lowest tier of European football against the doldrums of Europe and win that. We would love that. Would be incredible.

But if we then just go back to mid table obscurity like they have and will continue to do with as little chance as they ever did of winning another trophy, then it feels a bit pointless.

Is it not sensible to build to a point where we can then challenge for trophies consistently?

Is one trophy now and then nothing for a decade or more, better than 3/4/5 years of building (hopefully with European games etc) and the opportunity for trophies every year?

That time may never come though. I’d take the 2 trophies that Palace will get and worry about the rest after it.

 

[John from Bootle]

That time may never come though. I’d take the 2 trophies that Palace will get and worry about the rest after it.

Well, yeah, but the league is the bread and butter. You don't adopt a stategy to win a knockout competition, you adopt a strategy to make the team the best it can be, and the true measure of that is how you perform in the league. It may have escasped your notice, but it's the best teams in the league who generally win the cups.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

There’s also a portion of the fanbase who think because we haven’t flirted with relegation for the first time in like a decade, and we spent a bit of money last summer (but still not making up for the negative net spend in the previous years and 10 players to replace), we should now be winning things and for some reason think changing managers will make that happen.

Yeah, we could do a palace, win an fa cup out the blue, play in the lowest tier of European football against the doldrums of Europe and win that. We would love that. Would be incredible.

But if we then just go back to mid table obscurity like they have and will continue to do with as little chance as they ever did of winning another trophy, then it feels a bit pointless.

Is it not sensible to build to a point where we can then challenge for trophies consistently?

Is one trophy now and then nothing for a decade or more, better than 3/4/5 years of building (hopefully with European games etc) and the opportunity for trophies every year?

 

[Swartzy]

Just read Angus Kinnear’s statement. That’s quite the slap down for those wanting Moyes out.

Suppose we turn on him too now?

Well he does have a seriously irritating grin, so I'm all for it.
Let's bring out the heavy's

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I can see Moyes giving us another decade.

That'll be nice for the forum, won't it?

 

[hallamblue]

You don't look at this team and see a clear route to improving it? I mean don't get me wrong, we could see how it could be improved under the previous manager, but every man and his dog knew that would need 2 new strikers, a new midfield make-up, new full backs, and wingers. We've clearly progressed beyond that now 4 or 5 players is what we need now.

We bought 4 or 5 new players and the manager didn't use them

 

[DayL08]

Well, yeah, but the league is the bread and butter. You don't adopt a stategy to win a knockout competition, you adopt a strategy to make the team the best it can be, and the true measure of that is how you perform in the league. It may have escasped your notice, but it's the best teams in the league who generally win the cups.

You should try and win every trophy you are in which we don’t always do. We could easily be in a third trophy next year that we have a chance of winning but we’ve bottled it in case you haven’t noticed

Bizarrely Palace have shown the way. Buy young players, develop them, sell for large amounts and make the team better.

That’s what will improve the club and what we should be doing. What concerns most of us is the lack of development of the younger players. If you’re an agent this year with a young potential star where are you sending them - Brighton, Palace, Bournemouth, Brentford or Everton under Moyes

 

[hallamblue]

….i think so, I’m sure I read teams usually struggle moving into new stadia.

I'm sure I read that negative teams with no clear plan and the inability to change tactics or make effective substitutions don't win many home games.

 

[John from Bootle]

We bought 4 or 5 new players and the manager didn't use them

I don't get your point here????. Are you saying that all we needed to have a decent balanced squad this season was 4 or 5 players? We needed more than that, but was always gonna be difficult with a budget of £100 odd million. And it's not even true anyway. Who are the 4 or 5 new players who haven't been used? Not every transfer works out. I think the only one who's probably a complete write off going forward is Aznou, and he cost less than a decent championship player.

 

[degsy]

Moyes PR machine cranking up.

He did really well last year and seemed different - more progressive on the pitch, more honest off it.

He's defaulted into Moyes 1.0 for a lot of this season.

There has been progress this season, being safe in Jan/Feb has felt good after the trauma of last few years.

But just a bit more positivity at home we'd have had Europe/maybe even CL sewn up.

I can live with another year

I'd rather we didn't though

but letting him spend on players who's best days are behind them will be a big mistake imo.

This.

 

[John from Bootle]

You should try and win every trophy you are in which we don’t always do. We could easily be in a third trophy next year that we have a chance of winning but we’ve bottled it in case you haven’t noticed

Bizarrely Palace have shown the way. Buy young players, develop them, sell for large amounts and make the team better.

That’s what will improve the club and what we should be doing. What concerns most of us is the lack of development of the younger players. If you’re an agent this year with a young potential star where are you sending them - Brighton, Palace, Bournemouth, Brentford or Everton under Moyes

Well Palace haven't really progressed at all. They'll finish 12th, again. Brilliant work.

We're not Brighton, Bournemouth, Brentford or Palace. We're a much bigger club. Why on earth would you want us to adopt a strategy that smaller clubs do to finish mid table every season.

Accusations of bottling it are just lazy. Be honest now, you have no idea. Some would just say we've fell a bit short because we're still not actually a very good team.

 

[DayL08]

I don't get your point here????. Are you saying that all we needed to have a decent balanced squad this season was 4 or 5 players? We needed more than that, but was always gonna be difficult with a budget of £100 odd million. And it's not even true anyway. Who are the 4 or 5 new players who haven't been used? Not every transfer works out. I think the only one who's probably a complete write off going forward is Aznou, and he cost less than a decent championship player.

Aznou cost £3m less that Truffert who Moyes turned down in January 2025