2025/26 David Moyes

[Bluebonic]

Just read Angus Kinnear’s statement. That’s quite the slap down for those wanting Moyes out.

Suppose we turn on him too now?

To be fair Chico, i turned on him the first day I saw his corrugated, slappable grid. But then I am a deeply flawed, unpleasant human being

 

[Bluebonic]

…when we get facts and players giving an insight they’re immediately dismissed as ‘stage-managed’ because they don’t fit with the agenda. If a player is unhappy with the manager, I guarantee they’re not going to say otherwise.

Have a listen to the Keane podcast, it’s a very good window into life at FF. One thing he does say is how brilliant Ancelotti was at rotating the squad, I do think it’s something Moyes could certainly do better.

The issue with our fanbase at present is that so many have become entirely polarised with regards to Moyes. He can either do no wrong or do no right. Those who can see both praise and censure in what he has done since returning, by and large keep their counsel so as not to incur the wrath of the lovers of haters of the manager.

For me (and I didn't want him back) he has done very well to make us a much better team away from home. We seem to have a good spirit in the camp and other than the home performances, which have mostly been dire, he has overall done a great job.

If the likes of Glasner et al were not all becoming available shortly, I would be fine with him being allowed to run his contract out and go with everybody’s good wishes. However, I absolutely do not want him here for the ‘foreseeable future’. The old flaws he had when he left have not vanished or lessened in the intervening years and I feel that with so many good managers becoming available it would be a huge opportunity missed to not take a gamble (and it would be a gamble as you rightly say).

 

[Eggs]

Young players aren't going to openly criticise the manager for not playing them.

Bit naive to think otherwise.

….of course not but they’re not going to openly praise him either, that’s my point.

 

[tommytowne]

The issue with our fanbase at present is that so many have become entirely polarised with regards to Moyes. He can either do no wrong or do no right. Those who can see both praise and censure in what he has done since returning, by and large keep their counsel so as not to incur the wrath of the lovers of haters of the manager.

For me (and I didn't want him back) he has done very well to make us a much better team away from home. We seem to have a good spirit in the camp and other than the home performances, which have mostly been dire, he has overall done a great job.

If the likes of Glasner et al were not all becoming available shortly, I would be fine with him being allowed to run his contract out and go with everybody’s good wishes. However, I absolutely do not want him here for the ‘foreseeable future’. The old flaws he had when he left have not vanished or lessened in the intervening years and I feel that with so many good managers becoming available it would be a huge opportunity missed to not take a gamble (and it would be a gamble as you rightly say).

Excellent post encapsulating my thoughts entirely.
The image imprinted in my memory is that of Moyes and Irvine sat completely dumbfounded in the Newcastle game at home. The camera was on them for about ten seconds where the two of them remained both speechless and motionless. I am convinced there was a similar picture with the two of them in his last term with us. Screamed same old, same old.