2025/26 David Moyes

[MikeH72]

Post in thread 'Should Sean Dyche be sacked?'

December 1, 2024

Make a change and the whole thing falls apart.

People who think a crisis is 2 losses in 8 matches and demand change are dangerous to this club's future.

Dont listen to them.

Dyche is 2 for 2 in relegation scraps. I back him to get us safe again. We're 15th in the league with a load of tat behind us.

Get a 'kin grip.

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[MikeH72]

Oooer, what’s this then?

Post in thread 'Should Sean Dyche be sacked?'

December 2, 2024

you really are deluded

what you guna do when he’s gone?

say he will get the real madrid job?

I'll give my support to the next manager. I always do.

I know that sounds strange to many in this thread because all they've known all their lives is a managerial merry-go-round.

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[Vaughan]

Are people still judging our relative success based on a time when you could get Andy gray in on a free and win a league title, and win a European competition that no longer exists?

if you were to throw Moyes in a Time Machine he could win a league title in the 80s with Everton, or say United, Liverpool, villa, arsenal, Leeds etc


Completely different time

We should have high standards but got to judge on what is feasible for the era

 

[wandyr79]

You do know Garner was always going to be a top player dont you ?

The reason he has progressed so well this season is
1. No Dyche & 2.He is playing consistently with a long uninterupted run without the the 2 spells out with a back injury.
Always destined to be a very good player for whatever team he plays for , just ask the Utd fans.

You can't sit there and blame the manager for all things wrong and then not give him an ounce of credit when it comes to a players upturn in form.

A managers job is not just to put the players out there and tell them what to do and where to go. It is to support them mentally, dependent on the player and the players role. Under the wrong manager, a player can certainly not fulfil their potential.

Many players have been 'always' destined to be a top player. However, through mis-management and/or their own issues a lot don't make it to the point of England call ups/player of the year contenders.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Pickford - 32
Patterson - 24
Jake - 24
Branthwaite - 23
Myko - 26
Illy - 26
Garner - 25
KDH - 27
Armstrong - 19
McNeil - 26
Beto - 28

Average - 25.45

A random line-up but that kind of age range would be considered pretty perfect.

Would be mate, my point was that it likely isn't happening like. Live and hope though.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Do you mean because of the ageing squad Moyes left?

That what you mean right?

Like at Sunderland and West Ham?

Right?

Moyes left a very strong squad that was peaking.

Sunderland was a disaster but Moyes left a good team, albeit with almost no depth, at West Ham. But that was because the senior management at the club had made it so there was a massive war chest for Steidten and Lopetegui to spend, built over years of high league finishes and long European campaigns.

West Ham gambled and frittered away that legacy as they felt they deserved better.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Are people still judging our relative success based on a time when you could get Andy gray in on a free and win a league title, and win a European competition that no longer exists?

if you were to throw Moyes in a Time Machine he could win a league title in the 80s with Everton, or say United, Liverpool, villa, arsenal, Leeds etc


Completely different time

We should have high standards but got to judge on what is feasible for the era

Not sure I agree with how simple you make winning titles in the 80s sound

 

[blulouie]

You can't sit there and blame the manager for all things wrong and then not give him an ounce of credit when it comes to a players upturn in form.

A managers job is not just to put the players out there and tell them what to do and where to go. It is to support them mentally, dependent on the player and the players role. Under the wrong manager, a player can certainly not fulfil their potential.

Many players have been 'always' destined to be a top player. However, through mis-management and/or their own issues a lot don't make it to the point of England call ups/player of the year contenders.

Where have i not gave him an ounce of credit ?

 

[wandyr79]

Where have i not gave him an ounce of credit ?

OK, I saw something after I posted where you said that he may have had an influence. The post I was responding to had 2 points for the reasons and they were Dyche was not his manager and that he had injury problems previous. The post itself was not giving anything to Moyes, that is what I was responding to.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Great to see & hear but obviously that is following on from the Joke that was here beforehand.
I'm convinced he would have reached the same level playing for the likes of Emry , Arteta , even Pep.

Super player now he's overcome his troublesome back injuries.

Good to see you accept Moyes and his team coach to the same level as Pep, Arteta (who admittedly often says he learned much from Moyes and was even assisted by Steve Round) and Emery.

 

[davek]

I voted for a change in the Summer. I also don't hate Moyes.

No one mentioned hating him. It was about liking what he's doing here.

5 weeks ago the majority wanted him gone. That's a fact.

 

[Swartzy]

"Since Moyes has come in, you've seen my levels go up"

Straight from the horses mouth.

Garner was a class player before Moyes walked in the door, just stuck under 2 awful managers..

Moyes let Garner be Garner, of course he's helped, but you don't teach natural ability..

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

No one mentioned hating him. It was about liking what he's doing here.

5 weeks ago the majority wanted him gone. That's a fact.

It’s almost like people should wait for the season to conclude before making kneejerk decisions!

 

[Nymzee]

of course he's helped

This is all that people are looking for.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Garner was a class player before Moyes walked in the door, just stuck under 2 awful managers..

Moyes let Garner be Garner, of course he's helped, but you don't teach natural ability..

Funny how guys like Rice, Baines, Jagielka, Lescott, Arnautovic all magically find their levels going up under Moyes. Being able to see and develop talent is a skill.