2025/26 David Moyes

[Swartzy]

I was waiting for that one, but it actually makes it worse that these small clubs can win a trophy and we can’t. In the modern game and money, bigger clubs, with bigger stadiums, bigger fan bases and history will dominate the premier league now amd moving forward.

Yes you will always have a few like we have now in Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth. But I’d bet these clubs will all go down in the next 10yrs. And we may see a Blackburn for a few years or a Middlesbrough. But the premier is a different league now compared to
20yrs ago

I don't want to compare to these clubs, I want to compare to the "so called" bigger clubs, and why they can do it, or spurs can win a European trophy..

That's ambition, not talking about clubs that are dusting their trophy whilst forgetting what premiership football felt like.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Yeah cuz we can't do better than cup and get relegated - this is always a flat/weak argument.

Why can't we be like literally any of the other teams that win it who are still in the league and compete for it every year instead of getting it once and getting relegated?

And yeah, the point is that teams who operate on nothing or are bound for relegation as they're clearly not for this league still end up winning it, yet we, as a permanent mainstay and being the turd that the PL cannot flush despite trying their best, can never even compete for it? Why?

We don't need Moyes to punch us down, we're doing it fine to ourselves.

Who are these teams? Winning a cup requires lots of luck. We have only won 6 cups competitions in our entire history and for most of that time we were one of the elite financially dominant clubs. We had our moment of winning as underdog against the odds in 1995. Our best chance was under Martinez when he fluffed it.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

I was waiting for that one, but it actually makes it worse that these small clubs can win a trophy and we can’t. In the modern game and money, bigger clubs, with bigger stadiums, bigger fan bases and history will dominate the premier league now amd moving forward.

Yes you will always have a few like we have now in Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth. But I’d bet these clubs will all go down in the next 10yrs. And we may see a Blackburn for a few years or a Middlesbrough. But the premier is a different league now compared to
20yrs ago

Cup competitions ultimately come down to luck mate.

 

[Raino85]

Rebuild this

Young players that

The Toffees are 8th, thats all i'm bothered about..................doing a good job is old moyesie, and the quicker he gets us a starting xi of 30 somethings just to wind you all up, the better

 

[Swartzy]

Prepare yourself

 

[TheBigIguana]

We won on Saturday, great result, so what. You either believe in Moyes as the man to take us where we want to be, or you don't. A win here, a loss there doesn't change any considered opinion on Moyes. I think he's a competent manager slowly being left behind. He is not the man who will develop young players. So, either the club decides to abandon the young player first transfer model and pivots to "seasoned pros" like Tomas Soucek to placate the manager, or it changes the manager. Hanging on to Moyes and expecting Tyler Dibling to be "PL ready" in 2027 is a recipe for disappointment.

Anyway, we're merely on the rollercoaster again. We had a great win and those losing faith in the Moyesiah are pulled back in despite second-guessing themselves. Fail to beat Burnley at home tomorrow - a totally different challenge to Saturday that Moyes has fluffed more than once this season - and it'll be pitchforks again from people who can't make up their mind or stand by the courage of their convictions.

Holding on to Moyes means getting mid-table, standing still, early cup exits, "respectability", undeveloped young players, and treading water. Hold on to him and we'll be back here this time next year wondering why Dibling, Aznou, and Röhl aren't first-teamers, why we are out of two cups, and why if only we had beaten Coventry and Millwall at home we would have been top six.

The concern though is that it could mean worse than that. A hard pivot to “experienced players” doesn’t have to mean everything is fine all the time. I feel like what happened to Moyes at Sunderland gets forgotten.

 

[Swartzy]

Coleman, Charly out.

 

[MikeH72]

Coleman

Not long til the internationals now, can’t be taking any chances.

 

[davek]

I bet he had a full fat latte today after the Newcastle win and he was full of bonhomie.

 

[Efcjake]

We won on Saturday, great result, so what. You either believe in Moyes as the man to take us where we want to be, or you don't. A win here, a loss there doesn't change any considered opinion on Moyes. I think he's a competent manager slowly being left behind. He is not the man who will develop young players. So, either the club decides to abandon the young player first transfer model and pivots to "seasoned pros" like Tomas Soucek to placate the manager, or it changes the manager. Hanging on to Moyes and expecting Tyler Dibling to be "PL ready" in 2027 is a recipe for disappointment.

Anyway, we're merely on the rollercoaster again. We had a great win and those losing faith in the Moyesiah are pulled back in despite second-guessing themselves. Fail to beat Burnley at home tomorrow - a totally different challenge to Saturday that Moyes has fluffed more than once this season - and it'll be pitchforks again from people who can't make up their mind or stand by the courage of their convictions.

Holding on to Moyes means getting mid-table, standing still, early cup exits, "respectability", undeveloped young players, and treading water. Hold on to him and we'll be back here this time next year wondering why Dibling, Aznou, and Röhl aren't first-teamers, why we are out of two cups, and why if only we had beaten Coventry and Millwall at home we would have been top six.

Going to be another miserable year for you and all his haters if he keeps us around 8th.

I can't see him being sacked while we sit comfortably top half.

 

[Efcjake]

That’s nonsense Newcastle comfortably beat us, we had only 2 shots on goal to their 8 and they smashed us on
The XG, it wasn’t a freak
But Brighton and palace should have beat us if you’re going off chances. Even West Ham and Wolves finished stronger, we don’t even have a shot on goal in 2nd half v wolves

Some alternative league table gymnastics at play here.

 

[blueboy72]

Cup competitions ultimately come down to luck mate.

Yes course they do, that’s why 80% are won by the top teams
I’ve never known a poster on here to chat as much waffle as you

 

[blueboy72]

Some alternative league table gymnastics at play here.

So Newcastle was a freak result? , as that’s what I was replying to

 

[Seathestars]

Yes course they do, that’s why 80% are won by the top teams
I’ve never known a poster on here to chat as much waffle as you

Kettle, pot, black
Your self awareness is outstanding

 

[chicoazul]

I think an Everton win tomorrow hands full momentum to the Moyesttes.

The four games after should give a window of opportunity to Evertonians who fume when Everton win though.