If he chose a manager he would than have to stand by him, can't see that happening..
windymiller
Player Valuation: £70m
The reason we dropped out of the elite is all on that conman Kenwright, the fact that some on here still defend him boggles my mind. However, Moyes sold the idea that we didn't deserve to be competing, he was Kenwright's front, the man who explained that we should be grateful that we were just existing in the premier league. Whilst all of that Man Utd stuff grates, the real reason I can't get on with Moyes at this club is his role in normalising us being rubbish.
Even in the Johnson years, with a succession of poor managers, our expectation was to win not just to exist. When we won the FA cup in 1995, even after successive relegation battles, we didn't think it was some sort of miracle, we were used to winning things, we expected to compete even if we didn't win the big prizes all of the time. Now many of our own fans see finishing 10th as an achievement and that it is impossible for us to win a cup. Moyes sold us that idea while Kenwright gurned away behind him awarding himself "biggest blue in the universe" trophies. They sicken me.
31 years coming up since we last won something. In that time....
List of Permanent Everton Managers Since 1995
Joe Royle (Nov 1994 – Mar 1997)
Howard Kendall (June 1997 – June 1998)
Walter Smith (July 1998 – March 2002)
David Moyes (March 2002 – June 2013)
Roberto Martínez (June 2013 – May 2016)
Ronald Koeman (June 2016 – October 2017)
Sam Allardyce (Nov 2017 – May 2018)
Marco Silva (May 2018 – December 2019)
Carlo Ancelotti (December 2019 – June 2021)
Rafael Benítez (June 2021 – January 2022)
Frank Lampard (January 2022 – January 2023)
Sean Dyche (January 2023 – January 2025)
David Moyes (January 2025 – Present)
Only Moyes and Martinez got us near silverware. Semis for both and losing finalist in 2009 for Moyes.
It's not good enough, but Moyes isn't alone in failing in this regard. Christ that's a depressing list of managers.
List of Permanent Everton Managers Since 1995
Joe Royle (Nov 1994 – Mar 1997)
Howard Kendall (June 1997 – June 1998)
Walter Smith (July 1998 – March 2002)
David Moyes (March 2002 – June 2013)
Roberto Martínez (June 2013 – May 2016)
Ronald Koeman (June 2016 – October 2017)
Sam Allardyce (Nov 2017 – May 2018)
Marco Silva (May 2018 – December 2019)
Carlo Ancelotti (December 2019 – June 2021)
Rafael Benítez (June 2021 – January 2022)
Frank Lampard (January 2022 – January 2023)
Sean Dyche (January 2023 – January 2025)
David Moyes (January 2025 – Present)
Only Moyes and Martinez got us near silverware. Semis for both and losing finalist in 2009 for Moyes.
It's not good enough, but Moyes isn't alone in failing in this regard. Christ that's a depressing list of managers.
It was the 90's that put us in that situation.
We failed at stamping a footing after the creation of the Premier League..
It's simple to go back to then and say we had more expectations, the FA cup wasn't even a decade after a previous trophy.
We have had a journey of wrongs, not just one Wrong named Bill..
windymiller
Player Valuation: £70m
It's true that the rot started under Johnson but it accelerated hugely under Kenwright. Kenwright was also in charge for a lot longer than Johnson and refused to accept that the job was beyond him. Even when he finally sold up, and made himself very wealthy in the process, he only did so with guarantees that he retained executive power. Kenwright, abetted by Moyes, put this club in a new dark age. History will rightly regard him as a blight on this club. Hopefully the new owners will be more effective, only time will tell.
I'm not trying to jump to defend a certain individual, just saying it's been a long rot.
No'one gets a free bus pass in this journey..
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £50m
We’ll get more bounces than Jenna Jameson!
JobForTheMoyes
Player Valuation: £50m
Erm, Moyes probably stopped the club going into administration!
Genuinely no excuse for the current home form. Perfect new stadium with fans behind the team as soon as they pull up in their fancy coach.
If the players cannot cope with the expectation from fans about defeating massively inferior sides, then the manager should already have had them see sports psychologists and have then training much more often at the ground.
I will not accept "other clubs have also not settled into their new grounds" as an excuse, as we were crap at Goodison for years too. We now have much better players than most of the teams that have taken easy points off us at home this season, certainly more than good enough to not have conceded three or more goals three times.
With all of that in mind, the ultimate responsibility lays with the manager.
If the players cannot cope with the expectation from fans about defeating massively inferior sides, then the manager should already have had them see sports psychologists and have then training much more often at the ground.
I will not accept "other clubs have also not settled into their new grounds" as an excuse, as we were crap at Goodison for years too. We now have much better players than most of the teams that have taken easy points off us at home this season, certainly more than good enough to not have conceded three or more goals three times.
With all of that in mind, the ultimate responsibility lays with the manager.
little elfin
Player Valuation: £10m
Every time there's a sniff of Europe, he contrives to bottle it spectacularly.
He was more terrified of going 0-2 down than he was hopeful of clawing it back to 1-1, hence the cowardly refusal to make a substitution.
His fans would probably stomach a 2-3 home defeat to Leeds, as if that's some sort of consolation prize.
He was more terrified of going 0-2 down than he was hopeful of clawing it back to 1-1, hence the cowardly refusal to make a substitution.
His fans would probably stomach a 2-3 home defeat to Leeds, as if that's some sort of consolation prize.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £70m
The only 3 home games you could suggest we have failed to “defeat” massively inferior sides would be wolves (which was a joke of refereeing), west ham and Brentford (whose sides probably cost a similar amount to ours to put together so aren’t really massively inferior, certainly brentford).
Otherwise, the teams that have beaten us all have much more expensively assembled and better squads than we do. Tottenham, Newcastle, Arsenal.
It’s disappointing to have played the way we did vs Newcastle and Brentford (and spurs after the disallowed goal). But we have been scrapping relegation for years, we probably shouldn’t be talking about teams that haven’t been as massively inferior.
Some serious rubbish there mate.
Bluepablo
Player Valuation: £8m
Wouldn’t mind Carrick if Manure pass on him.
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
This is exactly the point were he fails and gives us an eye bleeding performance.
