2025/26 David Moyes

Brentford are a better team now than the one that finished 16th that season that you’re referencing there. I know it’s difficult for you to come to terms with after predicting their relegation for the 4th year running, but it is what it is.

Spin in whatever way you want. They’re a mid table team with a poor away record, we shouldn’t be getting humped 4-2 at home, and it could have been 6 or 7.
 
Moyes generally sets us up to do well away from home. We look pretty solid as a unit. At home, when the onus is on us to dictate play, we get found out. We need to be far more aggressive in our general play. We've conceded nearly 50% of our goals this season in three home games, against teams who were below us in the table. The mindset at home is too negative, and that's on the manager.
We start games passive at home. We don't press and we don't win tackles. It has to change and thr manager needs to fix it.

We also have no quality full backs and it stops us sustaining attacks.
 
Hell no. But it's a league of fine margins, and league position across much of the table will go to the last game.
Agree

We just aren't good enough to win on a day where our manager makes some basic mistakes and there are a number of bad individual performances.

But it's becoming a pattern at home and that's why you can't look at it as a one off. We've been thrashed 3 times now at home where we didn't turn up in the first half.
 
Agree

We just aren't good enough to win on a day where our manager makes some basic mistakes and there are a number of bad individual performances.

But it's becoming a pattern at home and that's why you can't look at it as a one off. We've been thrashed 3 times now at home where we didn't turn up in the first half.
We get rolled through the midfield every time in the first half, Garner trying to put out fires and being isolated. We need to command that area of the field immediately. It's mentality for sure, Tim has shown he's capable lately, so why bottle it today?
 
Today was terrible but overall the first half of the season has been ok.

Especially if you factor in our best player missing all season, low amount of goals, new signings not really having an impact and players playing out of position.

That might sound like low expectations and it probably is, but after last few seasons just being safe from relegation at halfway feels good.

For us to win games, the opposition has to have an off day.

And there are enough mediocre sides in the league for that to happen on a regular basis.

That's how it feels to me anyway.
 
We get rolled through the midfield every time in the first half, Garner trying to put out fires and being isolated. We need to command that area of the field immediately. It's mentality for sure, Tim has shown he's capable lately, so why bottle it today?

Definitely mentality for me. We don't win tackles or second ball and we don't press. I have no idea if it's coming from the manager's instructions or the players aren't good enough.

We also pass the ball far too slow and sideways. Everton football needs to be far more direct with a bot of tempo.
 
Have to say was impressed with Brentford today, think we all underestimated them, today and before the season started.

Some good players, experienced in this league, well balanced in terms of squad - skill and physicality, well drilled on system and game plan and man did they fight.

They were better. Better prepared and we were out played, out fought and out thought.

Loads of lessons in that today for us.

Bet we’l hammer Wolves.

Loads to learn from Brentford as a club, remember everyone waxing lyrical about the RS and their recruitment. Turns out the best player trade was Tiago replacing Wissa for £55 mill ( I know he was there last season). What a player Tiago looks, I’d spend 70 mill on him tomorrow.

Top player trading.
 
We get rolled through the midfield every time in the first half, Garner trying to put out fires and being isolated. We need to command that area of the field immediately. It's mentality for sure, Tim has shown he's capable lately, so why bottle it today?
Your question in the final sentence is impossible to answer, other than to say that Iroegbunam is maddeningly inconsistent. You are correct when you say that midfield was the problem today, which is why bringing off two midfielders to bring on a midfielder and a forward to leave us outnumbered in midfield was such an odd tactical decision from Moyes. Especially when Iroegbunam was already having a bad day.
 
It feels a bit like Moyes is aware he had to try to be more proactive and attacking than he would normally default to, but he can’t quite work out how to do it. Away from home when he can play his normal game we’re doing well but when tasked with making the running at home we’re consistently finding ourselves getting a chasing because he can’t quite get the balance right.
 
Out of our last six home games we have lost four and got battered in three of those four losses. That shouldn't be acceptable under any manager.

For those wanting to accuse me of cherry picking, our home record in totality this season is:

Played 10
Won 4
Drawn 2
Lost 4

Scored 13
Conceded 14

It's a pretty meh record and we're trending downwards not upwards.
Won 7 at home in a calendar year, shocking
 
We start games passive at home. We don't press and we don't win tackles. It has to change and thr manager needs to fix it.

We also have no quality full backs and it stops us sustaining attacks.

We're very easy to play against at home. We lose all that diligence we have off the ball when we're away and it makes us far too easy to play through. The team doesn't dig in and make it hard for the opposition.

And you're completely correct to point out the full back situation. So difficult to play on the front foot when you have two of the worst players on the ball in the league supporting your attacks.
 

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