Darron Gibson

[LinekersLegs]

He's the most overrated everton player anyway, in his time here he has spent more time injured than on the pitch and when he does play he's decent at best. He wouldn't get near the starting lineup of any of the current top 6.

I put him Naismith, Osman, Mcgeady all in the same bracket... can be decent but are mostly bang average and none of them would get games in squads we are/were supposed to be challenging against (spurs, liverpool, arse etc).

Think most would agree with you, but each of those clubs can and do spend a lot more money than us. Being smart in signings can make up some of the difference but only some of it.

 

[Tubey]

 

[bluemangroup]

He's the most overrated everton player anyway, in his time here he has spent more time injured than on the pitch and when he does play he's decent at best. He wouldn't get near the starting lineup of any of the current top 6.

I put him Naismith, Osman, Mcgeady all in the same bracket... can be decent but are mostly bang average and none of them would get games in squads we are/were supposed to be challenging against (spurs, liverpool, arse etc).

LOL

 

[Walken]

can't believe this scumbag keeps getting injured on purpose, we should be taxing him while he is injured till he is destitute like he deserves

 

[Boss_Blue]

He's the most overrated everton player anyway, in his time here he has spent more time injured than on the pitch and when he does play he's decent at best. He wouldn't get near the starting lineup of any of the current top 6.

I put him Naismith, Osman, Mcgeady all in the same bracket... can be decent but are mostly bang average and none of them would get games in squads we are/were supposed to be challenging against (spurs, liverpool, arse etc).

A fit Gibson walks into our team.



The problem is he is never fit.

 

[McBain]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/darron-gibson-not-injury-prone-9013310

Is the Echo ok? Anyway, I hate burst the Gaffers bubble here, but it doesn't matter how you get injured for whatever reason be it soft tissue in the legs or soft tissue between the ears -

- You're injury prone. You are Prone to getting injured. You get injured more than normal. There's Seventeen different ways to break an egg Roberto but it always ends up broken.

 

[Kiwi]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/darron-gibson-not-injury-prone-9013310

Is the Echo ok? Anyway, I hate burst the Gaffers bubble here, but it doesn't matter how you get injured for whatever reason be it soft tissue in the legs or soft tissue between the ears -

- You're injury prone. You are Prone to getting injured. You get injured more than normal. There's Seventeen different ways to break an egg Roberto but it always ends up broken.

Disagree with you coming from a physiotherapy perspective.
But that's alright

 

[McBain]

Disagree with you coming from a physiotherapy perspective.
But that's alright

You're talking about muscles aren't you. It sounds like Physiotherapy spin.

 

[Kiwi]

You're talking about muscles aren't you. It sounds like Physiotherapy spin.

Yeah insofar as muscles, tendons, ligaments and bone all are pretty different in what they do in the body and how they can be injured or broken as you described them.

 

[McBain]

Yeah insofar as muscles, tendons, ligaments and bone all are pretty different in what they do in the body and how they can be injured or broken as you described them.

What would you then define as Injury Prone? A Layman like me looks at this a little too simply.

 

[Kiwi]

What would you then define as Injury Prone? A Layman like me looks at this a little too simply.

Same kind of injuries i.e. Muscle, ligament etc cropping up.
Say if he's had knee injuries and keeps on having them that would be injury proneness.
It isn't just one thing that is happening to him, its a multitude of unrelated injuries.
ACL injuries can happen to anyone as do fractures.
Muscle injuries less so, they're usually symptomatic of some failure of prep or overuse or even changes in intensity.
You could call him prone to injuries I guess but in my mind he's just had really crap luck.

Unlike Sturridge who clearly has some longstanding issues with hamstrings.

 

[Ihaters]

Let me clear something up. Currently of the players that we have aged less than 25 in our team, only John Stones and Luke Garbutt are players who have been signed by Moyes (and I'm being generous with Garbutt, he was basically brought through the academy).
However in contrast Martinez has brought in Robles, Besic, McCarthy, Lukaku and Galloway (albeit one for next year).
So for all that Martinez has brought in experienced players, he has also brought in fresh younger players forming a youthful core to replenish a clearly aging side.
And he's brought through and formed the team around Ross.
So I think he can quite clearly see that the team will drop off in the future and is bringing in younger faces to rebuild the squad as they say.

What about nearly two years ago when Moyes left?

Only ask because (just under) 2 years ago when Moyes left:
Oviedo, Coleman, Barkley, Stones, Garbutt, Gibson, Mirallas, Fellaini and Anichebe and probably others were under 25, not just the couple you mention.

 

[Tubey]

Same kind of injuries i.e. Muscle, ligament etc cropping up.
Say if he's had knee injuries and keeps on having them that would be injury proneness.
It isn't just one thing that is happening to him, its a multitude of unrelated injuries.
ACL injuries can happen to anyone as do fractures.
Muscle injuries less so, they're usually symptomatic of some failure of prep or overuse or even changes in intensity.
You could call him prone to injuries I guess but in my mind he's just had really crap luck.

Unlike Sturridge who clearly has some longstanding issues with hamstrings.

I think he's genetically prone to injury - not just in one area, but just in general. I don't think the science is there to back me up, so I'm not going to say I'm right, but when a player can't go three months ever without injuring something, then I think it's fair to say something is wrong with his body. There's only so much you can put down to luck.

 

[Kiwi]

I think he's genetically prone to injury - not just in one area, but just in general. I don't think the science is there to back me up, so I'm not going to say I'm right, but when a player can't go three months ever without injuring something, then I think it's fair to say something is wrong with his body. There's only so much you can put down to luck.

Yeah I deffo get the perception, of him being injury prone if nothing else.
I think you could say he might be genetically predisposed to weakness in some areas of his body but don't think you can say science backs up him being completely injury prone. Hence its just terrible luck, which he seems to have gotten once he left United for us.
Didn't have the same kind of propensity to get injured at United

 

[Tubey]

Yeah I deffo get the perception, of him being injury prone if nothing else.
I think you could say he might be genetically predisposed to weakness in some areas of his body but don't think you can say science backs up him being completely injury prone. Hence its just terrible luck, which he seems to have gotten once he left United for us.
Didn't have the same kind of propensity to get injured at United

I said the science couldn't back me up yet. There's only recent science to suggest people can be genetically predisposed to injury at all.

My gut instinct is that he is, in general, "made of glass" genetically. It seems to me that when he stopped growing his muscular and skeletal framework wasn't quite right. I can't put it down to luck - if every time someone goes near you something breaks, then it indicates a problem beyond that.