Current Affairs Culture wars & The rise of grifting

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Had your head in the microwave too long if you think that chinless sex-pest is getting anywhere near a seat in Parliament :lol:
I said nothing about Andrew Tate winning a seat in Parliament. I said he has the potential to inflict serious damage on one or both main political parties. Farage managed to inflict political damage long before winning his seat in Parliament.
 
I said nothing about Andrew Tate winning a seat in Parliament. I said he has the potential to inflict serious damage on one or both main political parties. Farage managed to inflict political damage long before winning his seat in Parliament.
He’s not even going to come close to that.
He has zero support outside of the bedroom dwelling incels who buy into his nonsense.
He’s got far too much baggage for anyone with any level of political intelligence to touch with a 10ft pole.
 
He’s not even going to come close to that.
He has zero support outside of the bedroom dwelling incels who buy into his nonsense.
He’s got far too much baggage for anyone with any level of political intelligence to touch with a 10ft pole.
get him in the octagon dodging jabs from players outside with 10 ft poles. it'd be a great laugh.
 
He’s not even going to come close to that.
He has zero support outside of the bedroom dwelling incels who buy into his nonsense.
He’s got far too much baggage for anyone with any level of political intelligence to touch with a 10ft pole.
Borrowing costs today reached a record high (this century) for the UK government. These borrowing costs are not falling significantly in coming months and years, they will likely rise in fact. The fiscal sh*t is about to hit the fan with all the political and economic instability that comes with it.

Someone will fill the political vacuum. Tate has the populist skills as much as anyone else in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-long-term-borrowing-costs-highest-this-century-13285031
 
Borrowing costs today reached a record high (this century) for the UK government. These borrowing costs are not falling significantly in coming months and years, they will likely rise in fact. The fiscal sh*t is about to hit the fan with all the political and economic instability that comes with it.

Someone will fill the political vacuum. Tate has the populist skills as much as anyone else in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-long-term-borrowing-costs-highest-this-century-13285031
The NHS is at crisis levels, therefore I think Joey Essex is in a prime position to shake up the establishment.
 
The NHS is at crisis levels, therefore I think Joey Essex is in a prime position to shake up the establishment.
No idea who that is but I can guarantee he doesn't possess even half the communication or persuasion skills as Andrew Tate. That is why Tate is potentially such a danger to the political establishment. It's not Tate's political savvy or his policies to fix anything. It's the communication skillset he has. It's off the charts good. I think it has the potential to be off the charts effective on the working class.

It's effectiveness on the working class is why I think he's a danger mainly to Labour (specifically in the red wall) and the Tories. Lib Dem voters and much of the middle class will be immune to anything Andrew Tate tries to sell them.
 
No idea who that is but I can guarantee he doesn't possess even half the communication or persuasion skills as Andrew Tate. That is why Tate is potentially such a danger to the political establishment. It's not Tate's political savvy or his policies to fix anything. It's the communication skillset he has. It's off the charts good. I think it has the potential to be off the charts effective on the working class.

It's effectiveness on the working class is why I think he's a danger mainly to Labour (specifically in the red wall) and the Tories. Lib Dem voters and much of the middle class will be immune to anything Andrew Tate tries to sell them.
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I get the impression this is turning into something similar as the 'judgement cometh' for Donald Trump thread. How I was mocked and called all sorts of names, posters wanted me banned for telling them the truth. How did that turn out for y'all?

Never underestimate the power of off the charts communication skills. Most populists in history seem to have had them. Foolish to underestimate it. I can't guarantee Tate will be the one to seriously damage Labour or the Tories but he has all the communication skills to do it.
 
Borrowing costs today reached a record high (this century) for the UK government. These borrowing costs are not falling significantly in coming months and years, they will likely rise in fact. The fiscal sh*t is about to hit the fan with all the political and economic instability that comes with it.

Someone will fill the political vacuum. Tate has the populist skills as much as anyone else in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-long-term-borrowing-costs-highest-this-century-13285031
Would you vote for Tate?
 
1. He's a more powerful speaker & communicator than 99.9% British politicians. He's at least as good as Trump, maybe even better.

2. Populism is on the rise throughout the West.

3. The British state is about to fall off a fiscal cliff. These current years may be seen as the good times by the end of this decade. It's no coincidence we got Thatcherism only after the IMF became involved in UK govt finances. It took the disastrous 1970's for the UK to vote for Thatcherism.

I may easily be wrong and Tate does little in British politics. Im not sure he's a man suited for long term political commitments. However, everything is in place for him to destroy the political status quo if he decides to make a serious effort. Someone is going to upend it all we just don't know who yet.

If Trump can seriously undermine the US political system then Tate has the potential to at least massively disrupt UK politics.

Edit: oh, and we now have Musk's X. UK political news just became largely unanchored from the BBC, Sky, Guardian etc.

'I may easily be wrong' - yep.
 
At this point it's definitely Holiday isn't it
When did Holliday flounce off?

See, this profile just posted in the E sector until some point in early-mid 2023. Then BOOM, all in on the CA.

Do the timelines match?

Edit: unsure. Seems to be the point of first foray into the CA...

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Holliday went full Lawrence Fox here:

Post in thread 'A list UK celeb in trouble' https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/a-list-uk-celeb-in-trouble.118323/page-45#post-10838114

Sept 23.

Hmmm. Thoughts?
 
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