Liv and let liv?
Current Affairs Culture wars & The rise of grifting
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bluerobert
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Yer I agree with you in some way there, offence is the property of the offended. Not everyone is offended by the same thing.
It’s a tough subject. Frankie Boyle for example is a funny and smart guy but his jokes about Jordan’s son were too much for my tastes (and not particularly clever) but mates of mine aren’t arsed.
It’s not just about who is delivering the joke it’s about how people translate it as well. For some it is about mocking and demeaning people but for others it’s like celebrating nihilism and it’s a fine line between the two.
Same with Dave chapelle and trans jokes. Take context out of it and they are transphobic. Add in his stories about him being close friends with a trans female and giving her a break in comedy and you see he isn't against them.
bluerobert
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Again really good point, I suppose the point I was making is Grand Old Team want more people on here. It’s good for businesses. Somebody we might know to be a good person, have a good moral compass posts something as a joke about trans people as a one off in the post something funny thread. A newbie to here comes on and into that thread. That person doesn’t have the context of reading back through something in the Current affairs thread to actually understand the person who posted it. Something like the Chappel show, you’ve sat there through an hour and a half show to get to that point
tsubaki
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TBF the context with Chappelle is that he makes jokes out of absurd situations wherever he finds them.
In that sense his jokes are transphobic, at least in the sense that he finds it absurd that a person should be (by their self-identification) be able to make everyone else, especially him, identify that person in that way rather than having the freedom to choose themselves.
Yarrgh
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Indeed if he is trying to dehumanised other people only serves to dehumanise himself.Not to be seen 'playing the ref' here as I think the mod team in general do a good job on this forum, it does irk me that people get away with such openly transphobic hatred on here.
I get there should be room for the gritty end of discussing the big topics of the day, but I have seen people throw words like 'tranny' around which is an outright slur:
Tranny
“Tranny” was originally a term used by transgender people to refer to themselves.
However, over time it started to be used differently - by people who did not consider themselves transgender, to refer to transgender people pejoratively.
As a result, it is now normally considered a slur and to be offensive, but some people who adopted the “tranny” identity in the past still use it. Others have also attempted to reappropriate the term by using it to describe themselves positively.
Slurs - Gender Construction Kit
Offensive terms used to describe gender non-conforming people in the UKgenderkit.org.uk
If you are dropping the N word, calling people f*gs or m*ngs on here, you will be rightly reprimanded, I think this should also be added to the list.
I think chappelles campaign against the trans community has gone a long way beyond the context of a weak stand up routine
tsubaki
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not sure it could ever be called a campaign TBF
Compliance?
Guess you can’t say too much.
No chance a bank closes someone’s accounts due to a personal vendetta.
coollino
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I read it was Coutts, he must not have the minimum amount of equity you need anymore. It would make sense if it was that and he is just trying to make outrage from it
Awesome lol
I had to close my U.K. account with Barclays after moving to the EU mainly due to Brexit complications. Was a right hassle. So guess that makes us even Nige.
Hope it wasn’t stop baby oil
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