Current Affairs Culture wars & The rise of grifting

[Oddball]

You're concerned that media is advising private citizens to take the best action available to them to combat climate change?

Meanwhile a cursory google of "Empty planes slots" gives me about 600,000 results with pieces from the Guardian, Irish Times, CNN, Wired and other "MSM" outlets. Not sure what your issue is here.

I get that every bit counts, i just think there has been a lack of hype concerning empty planes.

btw- i just googled empty planes too and got 22 million hits - big deal! I googled jelly mould and got 36 million hits.

 

[summerisle]

Exactly !

 

[Oddball]

Just quickly checked
the MSM on this

Why the sky is still full of empty 'ghost' flights

More than two years into the coronavirus pandemic, airlines are still being forced to run empty or near-empty "ghost flights" in order to hold onto coveted airport slots.

edition.cnn.com

Airlines flying near-empty ‘ghost flights’ to retain EU airport slots

Analysis from Greenpeace finds deserted flights are generating millions of tons of harmful emissions

amp.theguardian.com

The 40,000 ‘Ghost’ Flights Roaming The Skies

Since 2019, 5,000 flights have flown empty to and from U.K. airports and another 35,000 were 'almost' empty—environmental campaigners are asking for more accountability around the practice of 'ghost' flights.

www.forbes.com

With a petition to sign here

Archived Petition: End ‘ghost' flights: reform historic rights to landing slots.

UK regulation states that airlines must use their landing slots more than 80% of the time in order to keep them. This was suspended at the outset of the pandemic but is now 50%, with plans to return to 80% by March 2022.

petition.parliament.uk

Kids, kids, kids! - It`s out there now ok. I replied to @Wizard after he brought up the topic of empty planes again, sorry i bothered!

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Oh dear lord, still going on?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I get that every bit counts, i just think there has been a lack of hype concerning empty planes.

btw- i just googled empty planes too and got 22 million hits - big deal! I googled jelly mould and got 36 million hits.

Are you telling me the mainstream media is ignoring jelly moulds?

 

[verreauxi]

To be fair, I don't like drag acts in front of children either.

I was at the local science center with my kids last week, and 'Alexandra' was in the full-on 'transsexual transvestite from Transylvania' getup, plus spiked collar, at the coffee station. I bought my coffee, and thought to myself a couple of things:

a) look, I don't care what hole you bang, just don't make it my business
b) FFS this is a professional environment - do what you want on Friday and Saturday night, just not here. I can't stroll in as a patron wearing full S&M getup (not that I want to, mind) without getting tossed out on my ear, so why can you get away with wearing that as an employee?

What frustrates me is the fact that people try to use the views of people like me on the subject as camouflage. I'm not anti-sex - far from it - but I don't think it has a place at work, and I don't think that sexual political statements have a place at work either. Doubly so if it's a kids' place - I would strongly prefer to hard pass on the choice between telling my kids truths they're not ready to hear, and lying to them.

Any show or costume of any kind should be age-appropriate, which is why we don't bring 5yr olds to adult-themed haunted houses or movies. I trust your judgment so I will assume the person wasn't just getting "extra" dressed up due to Halloween.

That said, I'm not sure if someone wearing drag/leather/spiked collar would be a "drag act" as much as it would be a some rando making a dubious wardrobe choice with a lenient boss--but then again, the adjective "dubious" is only set by the norms we've grown up with, and one thing we know for sure is that norms change with the times (e.g. tattoos). On a personal level (others might differ) my partner and I would be far more likely to let our kid (a 5yr old) hang with a leathered, spike-collar, “extreme” make-up, "drag-ey" fishnet, etc., coffee shop employee than with even the most milquetoast after-school bible reading group, where everyone dressed the same and acted even more similar.

As to telling your kids age-appropriate info, I get that. Perhaps you are speaking about external circumstances, but I don’t think anyone here judges you for the views you hold, as you haven't proven yourself in any way to be prejudiced or bigoted. And to be sure, everyone is entitled to what they do/don't want their kids exposed to and I wouldn't judge you for that, providing you don't judge me either (though societal and legal norms obviously set the boundaries on what might constitute "too extreme of an exposure").

There are tons of drag acts that aren't appropriate, and tons that are, such as many Lip-Sync shows on TV/internet. I was watching Monty Python reruns with my dad at age 7, which was pretty drag-ey. Was no big deal.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Kids, kids, kids! - It`s out there now ok. I replied to @Wizard after he brought up the topic of empty planes again, sorry i bothered!

So you were wrong about the planes then?

 

[summerisle]

Any show or costume of any kind should be age-appropriate, which is why we don't bring 5yr olds to adult-themed haunted houses or movies. I trust your judgment so I will assume the person wasn't just getting "extra" dressed up due to Halloween.

That said, I'm not sure if someone wearing drag/leather/spiked collar would be a "drag act" as much as it would be a some rando making a dubious wardrobe choice with a lenient boss--but then again, the adjective "dubious" is only set by the norms we've grown up with, and one thing we know for sure is that norms change with the times (e.g. tattoos). On a personal level (others might differ) my partner and I would be far more likely to let our kid (a 5yr old) hang with a leathered, spike-collar, “extreme” make-up, "drag-ey" fishnet, etc., coffee shop employee than with even the most milquetoast after-school bible reading group, where everyone dressed the same and acted even more similar.

As to telling your kids age-appropriate info, I get that. Perhaps you are speaking about external circumstances, but I don’t think anyone here judges you for the views you hold, as you haven't proven yourself in any way to be prejudiced or bigoted. And to be sure, everyone is entitled to what they do/don't want their kids exposed to and I wouldn't judge you for that, providing you don't judge me either (though societal and legal norms obviously set the boundaries on what might constitute "too extreme of an exposure").

There are tons of drag acts that aren't appropriate, and tons that are, such as many Lip-Sync shows on TV/internet. I was watching Monty Python reruns with my dad at age 7, which was pretty drag-ey. Was no big deal.

Never been to a pantomime, obviously.

Hands off our panto dames. Cross-dressing offers a vital licence for subversion | Grayson Perry

Grayson Perry: As a cross-dresser myself, I welcome the mischief it creates, and the way it undermines the increasingly rigid gender roles that are pushed on our children

www.theguardian.com

 

[Goat]

Cant get this song out my head after reading this thread.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Pins on Twanky here...

 

[Charro]

Are you telling me the mainstream media is ignoring jelly moulds?

You’d get more sense out of jelly mould than some of the ghouls who post in this thread.

 

[Moomin]

Cant get this song out my head after reading this thread.

FFS what have you done.

B.o.B is a flat earth nutter.

 

[ChesterBlue]

What a vile, pathetic little manlet

 

[Martin Alvito]

Any show or costume of any kind should be age-appropriate, which is why we don't bring 5yr olds to adult-themed haunted houses or movies. I trust your judgment so I will assume the person wasn't just getting "extra" dressed up due to Halloween.

That said, I'm not sure if someone wearing drag/leather/spiked collar would be a "drag act" as much as it would be a some rando making a dubious wardrobe choice with a lenient boss--but then again, the adjective "dubious" is only set by the norms we've grown up with, and one thing we know for sure is that norms change with the times (e.g. tattoos). On a personal level (others might differ) my partner and I would be far more likely to let our kid (a 5yr old) hang with a leathered, spike-collar, “extreme” make-up, "drag-ey" fishnet, etc., coffee shop employee than with even the most milquetoast after-school bible reading group, where everyone dressed the same and acted even more similar.

As to telling your kids age-appropriate info, I get that. Perhaps you are speaking about external circumstances, but I don’t think anyone here judges you for the views you hold, as you haven't proven yourself in any way to be prejudiced or bigoted. And to be sure, everyone is entitled to what they do/don't want their kids exposed to and I wouldn't judge you for that, providing you don't judge me either (though societal and legal norms obviously set the boundaries on what might constitute "too extreme of an exposure").

There are tons of drag acts that aren't appropriate, and tons that are, such as many Lip-Sync shows on TV/internet. I was watching Monty Python reruns with my dad at age 7, which was pretty drag-ey. Was no big deal.

As I said, full-on Rocky Horror Picture Show, complete with extreme makeup.

Sure, there's plenty of non-sexualized drag acts out there. Monty Python has guys getting dressed up as women because it's a male comedy troupe and the skit demands it. That's one thing. No problem, as far as I'm concerned. No reason Kate McKinnon can't play Jeff Sessions, either. If the performer is going to deliver the best impression, they should do it.

This, on the other hand, is a very different message being sent in a government-owned facility with a pre-teen audience. I think I should be allowed to object. Nothing wrong with the film, but it's rated 'R' for a reason.

My frustration with the bigots is that they try to hide behind positions like this, which gets me lumped in with them by the more narrow-minded people on the other side of the fence.

 

[Oddball]

Here comes the room 237 nonsense and the moon landing stuff.

Looking forward to the super-cringey, "how could I be racist when I constantly post right-wing black pundit youtube videos" type of thing.

Keep `em coming hot-shot ? it`s quite impressive how consistently wrong you are.
You`re closed minded, you think by being progressive you are forward thinking, empathetic, understanding and benevolent when in fact you are nothing but a blinded virtue signalling communist following a narrative that you have swallowed hook line and sinker. You can`t stomach anyone with a different outlook or point of view so you have to try and shut up opponents by crying "racist, misogynist" etc, you`re in a very sad situation.