Current Affairs Culture wars & The rise of grifting

[Lobster Johnson]

Lets take this a bit at a time.
If it`s being reported that you should limit your private car use while empty planes fly for no good reason, don`t you think it should be a major talking point and some action taken? Don`t you see any red-flags, that something doesn`t add up?
Where are the climate activists on this?

There are many climate activists concerned with one, the other or both issues.

This is not binary. It is possible to address more than one climate issue at once. I, for example, can support climate advocacy and activism to reduce the number of planes in the sky but I personally cannot do anything about it. I can, on the other hand, personally reduce the amount of consumption and emission by private cars by not owning one.

 

[cronullasharks]

Lets take this a bit at a time.
If it`s being reported that you should limit your private car use while empty planes fly for no good reason, don`t you think it should be a major talking point and some action taken? Don`t you see any red-flags, that something doesn`t add up?
Where are the climate activists on this?

What about running around with your arms out pretending to be a plane?

 

[Oddball]

There are many climate activists concerned with one, the other or both issues.

This is not binary. It is possible to address more than one climate issue at once. I, for example, can support climate advocacy and activism to reduce the number of planes in the sky but I personally cannot do anything about it. I can, on the other hand, personally reduce the amount of consumption and emission by private cars by not owning one.

I`m not specifically asking that of you or any individual. I`m talking about the hype private cars get as opposed to jets flying empty- burning millions of tons of fuel, yet they are virtually ignored.
Multi-nationals call the shots, they are being facilitated by the MSM and governments.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I`m not specifically asking that of you or any individual. I`m talking about the hype private cars get as opposed to jets flying empty- burning millions of tons of fuel, yet they are virtually ignored.
Multi-nationals call the shots, they are being facilitated by the MSM and governments.

The biggest contributions to addressing climate change any individual citizen can make is to reduce flying and car use. The reason reducing car journeys is "hyped" is because it is an easy win that can be replicated all over the world by people being a little less lazy.

Who do you think has more clout globally, the auto industry or the airlines?

 

[Oddball]

What about running around with your arms out pretending to be a plane?

Do you mean 5yr old boys, or the Evertonian who ran on the pitch at Wembley when England played Scotland? I don`t understand your reasoning.

 

[Tin-Tin]

 

[Oddball]

The biggest contributions to addressing climate change any individual citizen can make is to reduce flying and car use. The reason reducing car journeys is "hyped" is because it is an easy win that can be replicated all over the world by people being a little less lazy.

Who do you think has more clout globally, the auto industry or the airlines?

There are no passengers on those flights, the planes are empty but the planes still fly to keep their airport slots.

 

[LostLegend]

 

[Lobster Johnson]

There are no passengers on those flights, the planes are empty but the planes still fly to keep their airport slots.

Yes. I got it the first 14 times. My argument was that the average person can't do anything to directly influence that. What they can do is not fly or fly less and reduce/give up use of their car.

 

[Prevenger17]

There are many climate activists concerned with one, the other or both issues.

This is not binary. It is possible to address more than one climate issue at once. I, for example, can support climate advocacy and activism to reduce the number of planes in the sky but I personally cannot do anything about it. I can, on the other hand, personally reduce the amount of consumption and emission by private cars by not owning one.

Oh Lol, is he going on about the empty planes again? Stop wasting your time Lobster, he is irredeemably thick and debating a brick wall would yield more results

 

[cronullasharks]

Do you mean 5yr old boys, or the Evertonian who ran on the pitch at Wembley when England played Scotland? I don`t understand your reasoning.

What you having for tea?

 

[Oddball]

Yes. I got it the first 14 times. My argument was that the average person can't do anything to directly influence that. What they can do is not fly or fly less and reduce/give up use of their car.

........and again "i`m not asking that of individuals" - it`s the MSM focus on private car use.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

........and again "i`m not asking that of individuals" - it`s the MSM focus on private car use.

You're concerned that media is advising private citizens to take the best action available to them to combat climate change?

Meanwhile a cursory google of "Empty planes slots" gives me about 600,000 results with pieces from the Guardian, Irish Times, CNN, Wired and other "MSM" outlets. Not sure what your issue is here.

 

[Oddball]

Oh Lol, is he going on about the empty planes again? Stop wasting your time Lobster, he is irredeemably thick and debating a brick wall would yield more results

Ah! sister@Pretender17! - how`s your little one-man hate machine doing? Still got me on ignore have you. Why not join in the discussion and i promise not to take you to the cleaners, after all, i`ve taken you there so many times you should know the way on your own by now.
btw- sorry for replying to another members post after they brought up "empty planes", i`ll ask next time.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I`m not specifically asking that of you or any individual. I`m talking about the hype private cars get as opposed to jets flying empty- burning millions of tons of fuel, yet they are virtually ignored.
Multi-nationals call the shots, they are being facilitated by the MSM and governments.

Just quickly checked
the MSM on this

Why the sky is still full of empty 'ghost' flights

More than two years into the coronavirus pandemic, airlines are still being forced to run empty or near-empty "ghost flights" in order to hold onto coveted airport slots.

edition.cnn.com

Airlines flying near-empty ‘ghost flights’ to retain EU airport slots

Analysis from Greenpeace finds deserted flights are generating millions of tons of harmful emissions

amp.theguardian.com

The 40,000 ‘Ghost’ Flights Roaming The Skies

Since 2019, 5,000 flights have flown empty to and from U.K. airports and another 35,000 were 'almost' empty—environmental campaigners are asking for more accountability around the practice of 'ghost' flights.

www.forbes.com

With a petition to sign here

Archived Petition: End ‘ghost' flights: reform historic rights to landing slots.

UK regulation states that airlines must use their landing slots more than 80% of the time in order to keep them. This was suspended at the outset of the pandemic but is now 50%, with plans to return to 80% by March 2022.

petition.parliament.uk