Carl O'Ancelotti
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Dodgy evidence being getting the crap beaten out of them to obtain false confessions.
Current Affairs Critically ill man is former Russian spy
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What deed would that be?
tsubaki
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Are there, though?
I mean it is not the Police or Security Services that decide what is an appropriate amount of funding for themselves, or who determine whether its appropriate to allow ill-gotten gains to be laundered through the City, or whether to take money off Russians for political purposes, or what measures should be brought in after poisonings / killing two British subjects (and more than 200 other EU citizens) to deal with this regime.
In fact its a bit rich of you to have a go at Police and the Security Services when they have, based on what was in that statement and the praise given out by MPs, apparently managed to identify and obtain sufficient evidence against these two blokes to get them charged with serious offences.
tsubaki
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Just as an aside, the person who first publicly came up with that theory (that rogue agents within the Russian Intelligence services did this) was Theresa May and she discounted it because the Russians didn't respond to that question (whether it was them or rogue agents). It was not (and has never been) disproved.
I know very unsavoury. Interesting that RT have given Pat Finucane's son time to tell the story of his dad.
Patrick Finucane (21 March 1949 – 12 February 1989),[1][2] commonly known as Pat Finucane, was an Irish human rights lawyer killed[3] by loyalist paramilitaries acting in collusion with the British government intelligence service MI5.[4] In 2011 British Prime Minister David Cameron met with Pat Finucane's family and admitted the collusion, although no member of the British security services has yet been prosecuted.[5]
Finucane's killing was one of the most controversial during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.[6] Finucane came to prominence due to successfully challenging the British government in several important human rights cases during the 1980s.[7] He was shot fourteen times as he sat eating a meal at his Belfast home with his three children and his wife, who was also wounded during the attack.[8] In September 2004, an Ulster Defence Association member, and at the time of the murder a paid informant for the Royal Ulster Constabulary, Ken Barrett, pleaded guilty to his murder.[9]
After much international pressure, the British government eventually announced that an inquiry would be held".
Could see why the government doesn't like RT and complain that it is Putin's mouthpiece..
peteblue
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I wasn’t having a go at them. I said “There are indeed some key issues regarding the competence and behaviour of our secret services and police in this matter, and when someone stops pretending ‘it wasn’t Russia’, perhaps we can discuss”. Personally I think they’ve done a very good job. Why did you naturally assume reference to either competence or behaviour would be negative.......
Game over comrade.
peteblue
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67 pages, all his defence of Russia and he asks ‘what deed’....it’s incredible really......
So if it was rogue elements within Russian intelligence I would have expected some “noise” emanating from Russia of a purge of intel top brass. Surely Putin would see this as a potential attack on him and move swiftly to “remove the internal threat”.
He has nothing left to offer. Bit like Baines at left-back
tsubaki
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.... because you meant "key issues regarding the competence and behaviour of our secret services and police in this matter" as a form of praise, of course.
Can't answer the question. 'What deed? That's fine
peteblue
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I’ll leave it to you to place the flowers on his grave.......not Baines obviously......
peteblue
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No, as a form of inquiry......
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