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Patronising, and actually quite insulting drivel this mate

You actually think people who are struggling financially need to be told to use the cheaper stuff?

They are making whatever is cheaper and convenient night on night. They're getting by as it is.

They aint wasting money on premium products, nor do they have the time or energy to batch cook.

I've seen it and lived it for most of my life.

Just one excuse after another to avoid personal responsibility... It doesn't take much time or effort to cook a home-made meal from scratch!!!

Batch cooking with cheaper ingredients and store cupboard ingredients is good advice!
 
Just one excuse after another to avoid personal responsibility... It doesn't take much time or effort to cook a home-made meal from scratch!!!

Batch cooking with cheaper ingredients and store cupboard ingredients is good advice!

It is good advice, I’m just offering reasons as to why it can be difficult for people and not the solution you think it is.
 
Just one excuse after another to avoid personal responsibility... It doesn't take much time or effort to cook a home-made meal from scratch!!!

Batch cooking with cheaper ingredients and store cupboard ingredients is good advice!

It doesnt. If you know how. I personally reckon thats a major reason why folk go convenience. Cos anyone who can cook, knows the time difference between the two is miniscule. Microwave nothwithstanding. (And you cannot really cook a family meal in one).

If I CBA, I would happily show anyone who wants to know, how to cook tons of healthy meals for 2uppence. That is not a critique of folk who go convenience, far from it, My elderly Mum does, cos, "Why bother Mark?" Hard to argue with that.

Its not celebrity chef stuff, its being told the absolute basics, and from that, confidence grows.
 
Batch cooking healthy food for a working person is essential IMO. Personally, I haven't got the time or money NOT to batch cook. Fully understand if people's time is being consumed by working and/or caring, but for me, dropping 1-2 hours a week on my second job to cook a week ahead for my household more than pays for itself in the time and money saved.
 
Batch cooking healthy food for a working person is essential IMO. Personally, I haven't got the time or money NOT to batch cook. Fully understand if people's time is being consumed by working and/or caring, but for me, dropping 1-2 hours a week on my second job to cook a week ahead for my household more than pays for itself in the time and money saved.
Whats the staples and how are you coping with the scarcity/rocketing costs of ultimate basics? (For instance I do like mushy peas, the batchelors box used to be 39p, they are now 89p which is absolutely scandalous) (someone knew all this was coming ages ago when they introduced the £2 coin...)
 
People aren’t in food poverty because they’re not batch cooking.

They’re in food poverty because of rocketing food prices, stagnant wages and lack of support from the state.

Batch cooking can help, but only in a small way and it is difficult for a lot of people.

These are not excuses, they’re reasons.

Also, nobody is perfect. Everybody, including people in food poverty will have aspects of their lives and budget that they can improve. Yet, is does seem to be only people who are struggling financially are shamed for this.

You can offer your advice on batch cooking and buying cheaper foods, but also understand how frustrating that is to hear to people who are in a difficult position.
 
Whats the staples and how are you coping with the scarcity/rocketing costs of ultimate basics? (For instance I do like mushy peas, the batchelors box used to be 39p, they are now 89p which is absolutely scandalous) (someone knew all this was coming ages ago when they introduced the £2 coin...)


Rice based dishes - Chicken curry, Chilli conc, Chicken egg fried rice,
Pasta based dishes - Chorizo pasta bake, tuna pasta salad
Potato based dishes - Cottage pie, various different stews and casseroles
All above, padded out with whatever veggies we have: mostly celery, Carrots, frozen peas, peppers.

Any left over veggies get made into a soup
Soups - Mushroom, leek and potato, minestrone,

I'm coping by making this process of buying in bulk and batch cooking the norm rather than every now and again as it used to be. Only on my shop today did I notice the empty veg shelves. Haven't really had a problem buying the veg I need before.

I used to like mushy peas too...No more Fish Fridays for now. Presume mushy peas could be made though...Peas, butter, salt, squeeze of jif?
 
It doesnt. If you know how. I personally reckon thats a major reason why folk go convenience. Cos anyone who can cook, knows the time difference between the two is miniscule. Microwave nothwithstanding. (And you cannot really cook a family meal in one).

If I CBA, I would happily show anyone who wants to know, how to cook tons of healthy meals for 2uppence. That is not a critique of folk who go convenience, far from it, My elderly Mum does, cos, "Why bother Mark?" Hard to argue with that.

Its not celebrity chef stuff, its being told the absolute basics, and from that, confidence grows.
This is a huge factor. During covid my organisation worked with the foodbank and they took over our building to deliver from. We added additonal fresh recipe packs each week with instructions and added instructional videos online.

The feedback was to simplify the dishes as people generally had no/very little experience cooking from scratch. We moved to one pot/pan cooking and swapped out some ingredients to include ready made sauces. Even then some feedback was the dishes were too complicated.

I have some chef experience so naively i was thinking alot of people would know the basics of cooking, but people generally learn from their family and if the skills/knowledge aren't passed down it can be hard to learn.

That's even more difficult in low income households as you have less margin for error while experimenting with recipes as that may be the only meal option for that day.
 
People aren’t in food poverty because they’re not batch cooking.

They’re in food poverty because of rocketing food prices, stagnant wages and lack of support from the state.

Batch cooking can help, but only in a small way and it is difficult for a lot of people.

These are not excuses, they’re reasons.

Also, nobody is perfect. Everybody, including people in food poverty will have aspects of their lives and budget that they can improve. Yet, is does seem to be only people who are struggling financially are shamed for this.

You can offer your advice on batch cooking and buying cheaper foods, but also understand how frustrating that is to hear to people who are in a difficult position.

Believe it or not, it helps anyone who is able to/willing to do it at least combat the reasons you give in a massive way:

Eliminates food waste as ingredients are used up early rather than left in fridge, and prepared meals can be stored in freezer if needed
Ingredients cost per meal is considerably lower when buying in bulk.
Less fuel/public transport/time expenditure by not making multiple supermarket visits per week
Much less energy consumption in cooking per meal, including micro reheating
Much less time expenditure in cooking per meal

The savings in cost and time are significant.

I do understand, because I've been there. Being there was what made me realise that my household food strategy needed improvement. Food takes up a large proportion of income for most households, so the economics of it had to be given priority in order to reduce the strain on my overall budget. Could the government have helped me and everyone else in the same position back then? Who knows, but I'm sure they'd be clawing it back in tax off all of us working people for years after if they did.
 
Rice based dishes - Chicken curry, Chilli conc, Chicken egg fried rice,
Pasta based dishes - Chorizo pasta bake, tuna pasta salad
Potato based dishes - Cottage pie, various different stews and casseroles
All above, padded out with whatever veggies we have: mostly celery, Carrots, frozen peas, peppers.

Any left over veggies get made into a soup
Soups - Mushroom, leek and potato, minestrone,

I'm coping by making this process of buying in bulk and batch cooking the norm rather than every now and again as it used to be. Only on my shop today did I notice the empty veg shelves. Haven't really had a problem buying the veg I need before.

I used to like mushy peas too...No more Fish Fridays for now. Presume mushy peas could be made though...Peas, butter, salt, squeeze of jif?
Mushy peas : buy a packet of dried marrowfat peas, under a quid. Soak in water, they come (usually) with little tablets of bicarbonate of soda, and you put one in with the water and peas until it dissolves. After 14 hours, just soak it overnight, rinse well, then put in pot with 1 pint of boiling water and cook, keep stirring. The peas absorb the water, and, hey presto, lots of mushy peas. I usually add salt, and sometimes chopped mint.
 
Mushy peas : buy a packet of dried marrowfat peas, under a quid. Soak in water, they come (usually) with little tablets of bicarbonate of soda, and you put one in with the water and peas until it dissolves. After 14 hours, just soak it overnight, rinse well, then put in pot with 1 pint of boiling water and cook, keep stirring. The peas absorb the water, and, hey presto, lots of mushy peas. I usually add salt, and sometimes chopped mint.
Were 35pence, now 89pence. People going mad cos what was a 50 pence packet of pasta has hit 95 pence. peas nearly 3 times the cost, pasta nearly double.
What is also incredible is rubbish no taste 'white fish' is now more expensive than what cod and haddock used to be, and cod and haddock are more expensive than what fillet steak used to be, and a fillet steak...
No one is feeding fish and diesel costs have come all the way back down. To much pish taking!
 
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