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I've lived it and worked with people and families myself.

Everyone can make better choices.

I do think you have to have lived it to understand the pressure a lot of people are under. A lot of people are in the situation they are in through no fault of their own, they need help, but also a bit of sympathy and understanding which I always find lacking in this country.

Assuming people are picking top end stuff over own brand stuff and thinking they need to be told to buy cheaper products is insulting imo.

Plenty of people are picking the cheapest option and still struggling, that's the crux of the matter.

Then you have people who will pick the more convenient option, which isn't as cheap, but will save them time and give them a bit of rest bite.


Too much judgement, not enough sympathy or understanding.
I suspect there are those who fall into each of those three brackets, but there sometimes seems to be more concern with picking fights with one's political opponent than actually trying to help those people. They're almost a means to an end before people move on to the next means to an end the next week.

In these pages we often talk fondly of the EU, and of course the EU features governments of all colours and countries of different cultures and norms, so it's a project with compromise at its core. Indeed, across Europe more generally, hung parliaments and coalitions are far more common than they are here. It seems that this is perhaps a better way to go than the US model whereby each side retreats into their base and derides everything from the other side as rubbish just because its from the other side.
 

Cost of living crisis...
Buy pasta what earth is this country coming to, proper people, working people make their own no wonder the working class is now the working poor it's just lazy to expect to buy cheap ready made pasta.
Takes little time at all to rustle several months of pasta, the trick is batches and pop into the walk in freezer, here is a simple recipe, from everyone's favourite chef,

 
Buy pasta what earth is this country coming to, proper people, working people make their own no wonder the working class is now the working poor it's just lazy to expect to buy cheap ready made pasta.
Takes little time at all to rustle several months of pasta, the trick is batches and pop into the walk in freezer, here is a simple recipe, from everyone's favourite chef,

Strawman, no? No one is suggesting making your own pasta, merely that buying pasta and making your own dishes with it is cheaper than buying pasta ready meals.
 
The other half works with a bunch of families that are struggling and it's perhaps not surprising that the reality is in the middle. While it's not a case that they all just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, as the right often suggest, neither is it a case that some aren't making really bad choices, as the left would have you believe. It would be perhaps more useful for those people if we stopped polemicising things.
As an example of this, the missus helps mothers with breastfeeding, which is obviously considerably cheaper than buying formula. It's certainly not uncommon for women to struggle with this and go with formula because of this struggle. I get the impression on here sometimes that any additional attempts by the missus to help women would be viewed as patronising when the reality is that many do get it (and are grateful for that) when they're given a bit of time and support to help them.
 
Strawman, no? No one is suggesting making your own pasta, merely that buying pasta and making your own dishes with it is cheaper than buying pasta ready meals.

Which are nutritionally rubbish too, loaded with salt and fat, to make them edible.

Plus, most of them aren`t big enough to fill you up either, so you end up eating more crap on top.

Those ready meals, are just hangover food.
 
Which are nutritionally rubbish too, loaded with salt and fat, to make them edible.

Plus, most of them aren`t big enough to fill you up either, so you end up eating more crap on top.

Those ready meals, are just hangover food.
It was touched on earlier about a lack of time, and Sendhil Mullainathan's book covers this really well. We tend to view scarcity just in terms of a lack of money but it's often also a lack of time, energy, sleep, and so on, all of which make it harder to make "optimal" decisions, so I do very much get that some folk will go for the easier option even if it's not what we'd regard as the best option.
 
As an example of this, the missus helps mothers with breastfeeding, which is obviously considerably cheaper than buying formula. It's certainly not uncommon for women to struggle with this and go with formula because of this struggle. I get the impression on here sometimes that any additional attempts by the missus to help women would be viewed as patronising when the reality is that many do get it (and are grateful for that) when they're given a bit of time and support to help them.

Big difference between this and implying people should just stop buying Lloyd Grossman products and buy the cheaper stuff.

Comments like that are hurtful, and come from a place of ignorance. I'll always call them our for what they are.

Time, support and understanding is what a lot of people need who are struggling. They don't need blanket statements implying the issue is they're just not buying the cheaper stuff. It's far beyond that at this point.
 
Buy pasta what earth is this country coming to, proper people, working people make their own no wonder the working class is now the working poor it's just lazy to expect to buy cheap ready made pasta.
Takes little time at all to rustle several months of pasta, the trick is batches and pop into the walk in freezer, here is a simple recipe, from everyone's favourite chef,

Good luck with that, haven't seen any eggs in the supermarket for about 3 weeks now.
 
The other half works with a bunch of families that are struggling and it's perhaps not surprising that the reality is in the middle. While it's not a case that they all just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, as the right often suggest, neither is it a case that some aren't making really bad choices, as the left would have you believe. It would be perhaps more useful for those people if we stopped polemicising things.
Great, in-between making my own sauces I now have to Google new words
 
Which are nutritionally rubbish too, loaded with salt and fat, to make them edible.

Plus, most of them aren`t big enough to fill you up either, so you end up eating more crap on top.

Those ready meals, are just hangover food.
distill your own innit, go and thieve some spuds and lets get on the vodka train, might top the unleaded up as well...
 
Big difference between this and implying people should just stop buying Lloyd Grossman products and buy the cheaper stuff.

Comments like that are hurtful, and come from a place of ignorance. I'll always call them our for what they are.

Time, support and understanding is what a lot of people need who are struggling. They don't need blanket statements implying the issue is they're just not buying the cheaper stuff. It's far beyond that at this point.
The comment re the Lloyd Grossman jars was made, by myself, because of a post a couple pages back featuring a photo of a jar of Lloyd Grossman sauce on a supermarket shelf with an accompanying comment that the price (shown in the photo) had shot up.

Surprised you didn't factor that in when having a pop. I suppose it's easier to just assume that anyone with a different opinion to you is ignorant.
 
Big difference between this and implying people should just stop buying Lloyd Grossman products and buy the cheaper stuff.

Comments like that are hurtful, and come from a place of ignorance. I'll always call them our for what they are.

Time, support and understanding is what a lot of people need who are struggling. They don't need blanket statements implying the issue is they're just not buying the cheaper stuff. It's far beyond that at this point.
I remember when these kinds of discussions were had in the past and I mentioned some things my council does (https://www.southwark.gov.uk/health-and-wellbeing/health-advice-and-support/healthy-eating?chapter=4) and it was branded as patronising and telling folk stuff they already know.
 
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