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[Baines' left foot]

It's very well known: https://stormcatcher.co.uk/resources/land-rover-dpf-issues-oil-dilution/

Your local Landrover garage are clueless, or telling lies. They've received very clear instruction and guidance from Jaguar/Land Rover on the issue (I've got copies they issued to all dealers to try an mitigate legal regarding miss selling). There's quite a few dedicated websites setup solely on the issue, and there's class action lawsuits. Quick example;



The first 3 year warranty covers it, but they removed cover for the purchase of extended warranty. Interesting, that lol

If my LinkedIn feed is anything to go by JLR customer service is atrocious. A lot of people saying Lexus is a different experience entirely.

I wish I could afford to say I’d never buy a Range Rover. Maybe one day.

 

[PhilM]

It's very well known: https://stormcatcher.co.uk/resources/land-rover-dpf-issues-oil-dilution/

Your local Landrover garage are clueless, or telling lies. They've received very clear instruction and guidance from Jaguar/Land Rover on the issue (I've got copies they issued to all dealers to try an mitigate legal regarding miss selling). There's quite a few dedicated websites setup solely on the issue, and there's class action lawsuits. Quick example;

The first 3 year warranty covers it, but they removed cover for the purchase of extended warranty. Interesting, that lol

Honestly, if you really need a 4x4 (e.g. it's not about the aesthetics), I would go for the likes of a Land Cruiser or a Shogun over a Land Rover every day.

Like with the DPF you've mentioned above, they are notoriously unreliable and very costly to repair. A couple of friends have/had them, and I don't know why.

Every year, they moan about this needing repairing or this fault, with the cost often laughable. In work, we had a brand new Range Rover Discovery provided.

They got rid of it after the turbo went, then the suspensions and finally the boot broke - wouldn't close. So it doesn't surprise me that the DFP is a common issue.

 

[COYBL25]

Honestly, if you really need a 4x4 (e.g. it's not about the aesthetics), I would go for the likes of a Land Cruiser or a Shogun over a Land Rover every day.

Like with the DPF you've mentioned above, they are notoriously unreliable and very costly to repair. A couple of friends have/had them, and I don't know why.

Every year, they moan about this needing repairing or this fault, with the cost often laughable. In work, we had a brand new Range Rover Discovery provided.

They got rid of it after the turbo went, then the suspensions and finally the boot broke - wouldn't close. So it doesn't surprise me that the DFP is a common issue.

A old mate of mine, had a VIP chauffeur business and ran a few lease Range Rovers ( he used to ferry a lot of the footy players and their families around, from both teams on nights out )

As much as the Range Rovers, are the most beautiful car, both to drive and to be a passenger in, they weren`t without their problems.

There was always some form of electrical fault, to the point, that unless it stopped the cars going, he`d ignore them.

A really common one, was the fact, there was a massive design fault, in that, inside the wheel arches and covered by nothing but the interior wheel arch trim, was some serious wiring, that governed the likes of the suspension, the steering and the traction control etc.

Even in newish ones, water / damp would eventually find it`s way in and cause problems with the wiring.

He got gave up in the end and swapped them, for custom built Merc Vito`s, which he had no problems with.

 

[Neiler]

Peak GOT, cost of living thread ends up in a discussion about Range Rovers. lol

 

[Yarrgh]

Peak GOT, cost of living thread ends up in a discussion about Range Rovers. lol

Is this a ... Tory club?

 

[Neiler]

Is this a ... Tory club?

I'm saying nothing, in case someone sends me out for the cheese and crackers. lol

 

[GrandOldTeam]

If my LinkedIn feed is anything to go by JLR customer service is atrocious. A lot of people saying Lexus is a different experience entirely.

I wish I could afford to say I’d never buy a Range Rover. Maybe one day.

Honestly, if you really need a 4x4 (e.g. it's not about the aesthetics), I would go for the likes of a Land Cruiser or a Shogun over a Land Rover every day.

Like with the DPF you've mentioned above, they are notoriously unreliable and very costly to repair. A couple of friends have/had them, and I don't know why.

Every year, they moan about this needing repairing or this fault, with the cost often laughable. In work, we had a brand new Range Rover Discovery provided.

They got rid of it after the turbo went, then the suspensions and finally the boot broke - wouldn't close. So it doesn't surprise me that the DFP is a common issue.

I only have a land rover discovery sport - before that I was ragging around in a Corsa. I'm not rich/car precious lol

I just needed a car for rural roads and a boot big enough to fit a hound in. Its surprising how many 4x4 can't really fit a decent size dog in.

I couldnt afford the next engine up (petrol) at the time but do regret going diesel now. one DPF replacement would have almost covered the upgrade.

Totally get what you mean about repair costs - someone took my wing mirror off and it cost more to replace than my first car lol Fortunately dashcam meant the insurance claim was an easy one but even so.

I was thinking I'll go dacia duster 4x4 next? cheap but sound pretty reliable.

 

[PhilM]

I only have a land rover discovery sport - before that I was ragging around in a Corsa. I'm not rich/car precious lol

I just needed a car for rural roads and a boot big enough to fit a hound in. Its surprising how many 4x4 can't really fit a decent size dog in.

I couldnt afford the next engine up (petrol) at the time but do regret going diesel now. one DPF replacement would have almost covered the upgrade.

Totally get what you mean about repair costs - someone took my wing mirror off and it cost more to replace than my first car lol Fortunately dashcam meant the insurance claim was an easy one but even so.

I was thinking I'll go dacia duster 4x4 next? cheap but sound pretty reliable.

Dacia Dusters are low frills (well, no frills on many models), but they’re pretty reliable and do the job. Bang for the buck, they’re great.

Kia Sportages with AWD and a decent sized engine is a very good option too. We use a 2L diesel one with AWD and it’s great.

 

[COYBL25]

I only have a land rover discovery sport - before that I was ragging around in a Corsa. I'm not rich/car precious lol

I just needed a car for rural roads and a boot big enough to fit a hound in. Its surprising how many 4x4 can't really fit a decent size dog in.

I couldnt afford the next engine up (petrol) at the time but do regret going diesel now. one DPF replacement would have almost covered the upgrade.

Totally get what you mean about repair costs - someone took my wing mirror off and it cost more to replace than my first car lol Fortunately dashcam meant the insurance claim was an easy one but even so.

I was thinking I'll go dacia duster 4x4 next? cheap but sound pretty reliable.

A mate swears by his old Suzuki Vitara Grand.

Reckons it’s pretty much bullet proof.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Dacia Dusters are low frills (well, no frills on many models), but they’re pretty reliable and do the job. Bang for the buck, they’re great.

Kia Sportages with AWD and a decent sized engine is a very good option too. We use a 2L diesel one with AWD and it’s great.

Just no!
Dacias are horrendous. Nothing says “I can’t afford a proper car” like a duster

 

[PhilM]

Just no!
Dacias are horrendous. Nothing says “I can’t afford a proper car” like a duster

I’d disagree. Like I said, they’re definitely ‘no frills’, and if you want comfort, mod-cons and refined design they aren’t what you’d want.

But if you’re not bothered about aesthetics and the newest gadgets while wanting reliability and some technology, you can’t really argue knock them.

I don’t have one, but I have driven them through work and they did the job good enough, with a price much lower than most others.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Honestly, if you really need a 4x4 (e.g. it's not about the aesthetics), I would go for the likes of a Land Cruiser or a Shogun over a Land Rover every day.

Like with the DPF you've mentioned above, they are notoriously unreliable and very costly to repair. A couple of friends have/had them, and I don't know why.

Every year, they moan about this needing repairing or this fault, with the cost often laughable. In work, we had a brand new Range Rover Discovery provided.

They got rid of it after the turbo went, then the suspensions and finally the boot broke - wouldn't close. So it doesn't surprise me that the DFP is a common issue.

A old mate of mine, had a VIP chauffeur business and ran a few lease Range Rovers ( he used to ferry a lot of the footy players and their families around, from both teams on nights out )

As much as the Range Rovers, are the most beautiful car, both to drive and to be a passenger in, they weren`t without their problems.

There was always some form of electrical fault, to the point, that unless it stopped the cars going, he`d ignore them.

A really common one, was the fact, there was a massive design fault, in that, inside the wheel arches and covered by nothing but the interior wheel arch trim, was some serious wiring, that governed the likes of the suspension, the steering and the traction control etc.

Even in newish ones, water / damp would eventually find it`s way in and cause problems with the wiring.

He got gave up in the end and swapped them, for custom built Merc Vito`s, which he had no problems with.

Many years ago I used to work in the automotive supply chain. The company I worked for supplied components for Jaguar, Honda, Rover and Land Rover. Guess which two had the least stringent quality control requirements monitoring/management of suppliers?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I’d disagree. Like I said, they’re definitely ‘no frills’, and if you want comfort, mod-cons and refined design they aren’t what you’d want.

But if you’re not bothered about aesthetics and the newest gadgets while wanting reliability and some technology, you can’t really argue knock them.

I don’t have one, but I have driven them through work and they did the job good enough, with a price much lower than most others.

Ha, the in-laws work or worked in the Romanian automotive supply chain and Dacia were / are a big customer to their employer.

They're not complimentary! Having said that, they seem to top reliability surveys in this country. https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-9926415/Lexus-Dacia-chart-reliable-cars.html

I think they'll slowly improve as a marque too. Renault will possibly do what VW did with Skoda.

 

[COYBL25]

Many years ago I used to work in the automotive supply chain. The company I worked for supplied components for Jaguar, Honda, Rover and Land Rover. Guess which two had the least stringent quality control requirements monitoring/management of suppliers?

Jag and Land Rover ?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Jag and Land Rover ?

Yup. Rover were utterly appalling at the end. Didn't care what they brought in as long as it was cheap. The buyers got huge bonuses, but it just caused recalls or warranty repairs galore.