Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Just got a letter from our brewers saying that they will replace all casks and kegs that are out of date when we come out of this free of charge. Coupled with the 80% wages for our now furloughed staff, this won’t be as bad as I first expected, economy wise. Now I just need everyone to stay well.......

Yeah I’ve been Pleasantly surprised by a lot of The response . I do think though that the time scale is still the key personally , there is certainly resilience but if we look at months of this I’m unsure how long some can continue with that . .
 
No. All we're doing is extending the curve so that the virus doesn't overwhelm the NHS in one short spike, resulting in many more deaths.

The virus itself is going nowhere - it will in all likelihood become a recurrent, seasonal coronavirus strain. Even if we manage to "flatten the curve" over the next 1-2 months, the reality is that another spike will probably hit us around October-November unless the asymptomatic portion of this pandemic is around the 80% mark and a lot more people have it all over the UK than previously thought.

So to answer your question, this "all ends" only when the virus infects enough of us to develop herd immunity, and/or a vaccine is found. You're looking at 12-18 months for both of those things to occur. In that time, expect many more lockdowns to occur.
So the football might not start in June lol
 
I've just seen that on the news. Sadly, it looks like that they've haven't peaked yet, which is incredibly worrying.
Their case numbers might have, they were below 6000 again for new cases despite expanded testing in Lombardy, their worst was March 21st with 6500. Very sadly though there will be a lag in noticing a reduction in the fatalities and even if it all magically stopped tomorrow it has been devastating to some communities..
 
I have to ask this question cause it's pertinent. Does anyone believe that here in the US or in the UK are the governments adequately testing?

And tumbleweed is going to slowly cross my screen.

This is the basis of our scientific method, you need data. Not only do you need data but it needs to be corroborated and tested. Anybody who is telling you that testing isn't important, is lying.

We've based our whole scientific model on testing. Not Witchcraft, superstition or opinions. Everything literally around you right now, has been tested.

Right now, you may as well put sage around your house recite the Lords prayer and hope to ward off evil spirits and the virus.

That's the stupidity of the situation.
 
So the football might not start in June lol

The idea of any mass gatherings before around September at the earliest is laughable.

They'll try and get away with doing it behind closed doors in June I'm guessing, but even that is ridiculous and if the players/clubs had any sense whatsoever they'd be laughing any suggestion of it happening off.

The only reason it hasn't been voided already is down to money and Kopites infesting the highest levels of the game - nothing more.
 
Ok so I get that . So she can’t sit on a bench and take a moment to contemplate her world our world . We have no idea of her situation or how she’s coping mentally or physically maybe she literally just needed a minute in the only outside space in her world . Literally a minute . Whilst two uniformed officers , who haven’t been tested by the way walked together a foot apart and approached her less that 6 feet

Construction workers though can get the tube in to work standing packed on a platform then cheek to Jowl on a train then go and work in the same conditions before sitting 6 to a table 5 inches apart in a chocca Canteen .

I’m respecting social distancing , I’m respecting instructions that out being given but I’m not really one to just swallow whatever the authorities say because they’re saying it . Sometimes a degree of common sense , should in my opinion prevail , if there are two people on the bench then fine feel free to intervene . It felt like a sledgehammer to crack a walnut personally , just my opinion.

Any kind of emergency brings out the Captain Mainwaring in some people. Sticklers for the rules; no idea about human interaction.
 
I have to ask this question cause it's pertinent. Does anyone believe that here in the US or in the UK are the governments adequately testing?

And tumbleweed is going to slowly cross my screen.

This is the basis of our scientific method, you need data. Not only do you need data but it needs to corroborated and be tested. Anybody who is telling you that testing isn't important, is lying.

We've based our whole scientific model on testing. Not Witchcraft, superstition or opinions. Everything literally around you right now, has been tested.

Right now, you may as well put sage around your house recite the Lords prayer and hope to ward off evil spirits and the virus.

That's the stupidity of the situation.
Testing in US started out as being uniformly awful.

Some states are now doing noticeably better than others
 
Their case numbers might have, they were below 6000 again for new cases despite expanded testing in Lombardy, their worst was March 21st with 6500. Very sadly though there will be a lag in noticing a reduction in the fatalities and even if it all magically stopped tomorrow it has been devastating to some communities..

Correct. You're looking at a 2-3 week delay between the crossover point of case loads declining and fatalities happening.

I think too many people are looking at the figures and thinking "oh, <X> amount of cases tested positive, and of them <Y> amount died" - that's not what is happening; sadly it takes days and often weeks for the initial diagnosis to become a fatality. Or indeed a recovery.
 
Correct. You're looking at a 2-3 week delay between the crossover point of case loads declining and fatalities happening.

I think too many people are looking at the figures and thinking "oh, <X> amount of cases tested positive, and of them <Y> amount died" - that's not what is happening; sadly it takes days and often weeks for the initial diagnosis to become a fatality. Or indeed a recovery.
From the WHO China report
“Using available preliminary data, the median time from onset to clinical recovery for mild cases is approximately 2 weeks and is 3-6 weeks for patients with severe or critical disease. Preliminary data suggests that the time period from onset to the development of severe disease, including hypoxia, is 1 week. Among patients who have died, the time from symptom onset to outcome ranges from 2-8 weeks.“
 
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