Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I'm a big fan of Sunak.

This is an incredibly complex thing to roll out and ensure it goes to those who need it. Its miles harder than for employees.

Its needlessly complex.

It would have been far easier (and probably cheaper) to go down the mortgage holiday route (loaning the banks money for Q2 2020's mortgage payments - they then don't take it out of people's accounts but do add on three months to the terms, the banks then paying the government back as the money trickles back in. BTL mortgages would be paid rather than holiday'd) combined with rent payments for tenants whose landlords own the property outright.

Take the housing costs out of people's spending (together with other things like transport and recreation costs) and it would have then been possible to see UC or even SSP as something people would be able to live on.

Instead they've made the employed people reliant on their firm being willing to hand over that 80% of their wages when the grant comes through next month, and the self-employed reliant on a system they mostly spent years fiddling.
 
I have been self-employed (in this role as a freelancer) for the last five years now - have paid my taxes every year.

However, up until Feb 2019 it wasn't my main source of income – I had a full-time job and paid PAYE.

So, dunno if anyone would know how that'd work out?
 
Guardian:

Ireland has found a readymade force in the fight against coronavirus: the postal service.

Postmen and postwomen have volunteered to check in on elderly and vulnerable people during their rounds, a potentially invaluable safeguard while such groups cocoon.

The employees suggested it to the Communications Workers’ Union which punted the idea to management and the government, who gladly accepted.

Postal workers are known and trusted by the people they serve, David McRedmond, the CEO of An Post, the Irish postal service, told a news conference.

“They’re going with a set of questions. Do they need food? Do they need pharmacy? Do they need to send out messages? And the postman or postwoman will take that back and we will look after that and make sure that gets fulfilled.”

An Post will take parcels and letters from vulnerable categories of people and deliver them for free. It will also deliver millions of blank postcards so those self-isolating at home can write to friends and relatives.

To combat misinformation the government has published a booklet on coronavirus that will be sent to 2.2m households nationwide.

“There is a sense of national pride at the moment which is fantastic,” said the health minister, Simon Harris.

“Something weird is happening, everyone pulling together, everywhere. Look at the postmen and postwomen, calling in to check on vulnerable people on their rounds. They suggested this themselves. They approached their union and said they wanted to do this for free. Isn’t that just brilliant?”
 
Guardian:

Ireland has found a readymade force in the fight against coronavirus: the postal service.

Postmen and postwomen have volunteered to check in on elderly and vulnerable people during their rounds, a potentially invaluable safeguard while such groups cocoon.

The employees suggested it to the Communications Workers’ Union which punted the idea to management and the government, who gladly accepted.

Postal workers are known and trusted by the people they serve, David McRedmond, the CEO of An Post, the Irish postal service, told a news conference.

“They’re going with a set of questions. Do they need food? Do they need pharmacy? Do they need to send out messages? And the postman or postwoman will take that back and we will look after that and make sure that gets fulfilled.”

An Post will take parcels and letters from vulnerable categories of people and deliver them for free. It will also deliver millions of blank postcards so those self-isolating at home can write to friends and relatives.

To combat misinformation the government has published a booklet on coronavirus that will be sent to 2.2m households nationwide.

“There is a sense of national pride at the moment which is fantastic,” said the health minister, Simon Harris.

“Something weird is happening, everyone pulling together, everywhere. Look at the postmen and postwomen, calling in to check on vulnerable people on their rounds. They suggested this themselves. They approached their union and said they wanted to do this for free. Isn’t that just brilliant?”

er - the French posties have been doing that exact thing for several years now. In fact most postal workers do that here as well.
 
Its needlessly complex.

It would have been far easier (and probably cheaper) to go down the mortgage holiday route (loaning the banks money for Q2 2020's mortgage payments - they then don't take it out of people's accounts but do add on three months to the terms, the banks then paying the government back as the money trickles back in. BTL mortgages would be paid rather than holiday'd) combined with rent payments for tenants whose landlords own the property outright.

Take the housing costs out of people's spending (together with other things like transport and recreation costs) and it would have then been possible to see UC or even SSP as something people would be able to live on.

Instead they've made the employed people reliant on their firm being willing to hand over that 80% of their wages when the grant comes through next month, and the self-employed reliant on a system they mostly spent years fiddling.

That’s their lookout.

A mortgage holiday scheme would not have been as balanced as the scheme for employees.

What about those who live with somebody and there is unequal income. Do you defer a third of the mortgage ?

What about those who are low earners and live with their parents ?

etc.
 
It sounds to me like it's just your last 3 tax years on self assessment averaged out (I assume 18/19, 17/18 & 16/17) then divided by 12 to get your monthly entitlement.

Will have to wait for the details to be published though. But it all sounds ok to me.

I worked out my avg earnings over the last three years the other day (and for the last year, just in case)

I don't know how it works based on my tax - always had an accountant do it for me. Have claimed back on expenses etc.

It's bloody worrying now waiting for HMRC to get in touch. Have no idea what I'm entitled to if it's based off my self-assessment.
 
Just more or less said there will be measures in future to redress what they are paying out.

Of course there will, all this money will have to be paid back at some point through taxation.

But that’s different to it being something automatically repaid directly which is what the other poster was implying.
 
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