Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[MikeH72]

We really need to define what we mean by ''true'' and ''an expert''.

University of Washington?

Past COVID infection 'as good as vaccines' at preventing severe illness

While the research suggests that natural immunity could be just as good as vaccines at preventing serious illness from COVID-19 infection, the study's authors encourage people to still get vaccinated, to avoid any complications from any initial infections.

news.sky.com

National Institutes of Health (January 2021)?

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19

The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.

www.nih.gov

World Health Organisation?

COVID-19 natural immunity

Scientific Brief

www.who.int

The ONS?

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics

www.ons.gov.uk

You’ll have to let me know if these are politically accepted sources because I haven’t really checked. Of course it’s not enough to simply have qualified medical expertise if you don’t have the right politics.

 

[Amw79]

But natural immunity essentially is a vaccine, so what is the problem?

I don’t think people denied that did they? Natural immunity is obviously a good thing, only problem with it being you have to get the virus first, and encounter the associated risks of that.

So it then becomes a balance of ‘which is more likely to cause harm / death’ - getting immunity via catching the virus, or getting it via a vaccine in which case you don’t have to get the virus.

Natural immunity was the governments first strategy - “let it rip”, “let the bodies pile high”, until it actually did rip, and the bodies did pile high, and the health service ended up (and is still) on it’s knees.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

*chants to self
do not engage do not engage do not engage

Ban them all Raf

 

[MikeH72]

I don’t think people denied that did they? Natural immunity is obviously a good thing, only problem with it being you have to get the virus first, and encounter the associated risks of that.

So it then becomes a balance of ‘which is more likely to cause harm / death’ - getting immunity via catching the virus, or getting it via a vaccine in which case you don’t have to get the virus.

Natural immunity was the governments first strategy - “let it rip”, “let the bodies pile high”, until it actually did rip, and the bodies did pile high, and the health service ended up (and is still) on it’s knees.

At one point that wasn’t a choice, as we didn’t have vaccines. So if people caught it at that time then they just had to hope their symptoms were mild. Those people all had natural immunity and imo not all of them needed a vaccine as well (exceptions of course for the clinically vulnerable which I’ve always been a strong advocate of vaccines for)

 

[RAFUH]

Ban them all Raf

If I do that in CA, Danny might take away my ban hammer

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Are folk still arguing about this. Let's just all agree that Trump was really right - it came from China. Also that Bill Gates controls us all via the microchip vaccines delivery system.

We're all good now, Bill is a benign master and the new world order ain't so bad.

 

[Tommy.]

I worked throughout lockdown as I was classed as essential (Military Aerospace sector) and I've never had a confirmed case though I suspect I had it before it truly hit the headlines and for me it was just like a cold but messed with my smell and taste (beer tasted like burning, really weird sensation). I was clearly lucky.


We lost my cousin to it and my Mum is still struggling 2 years after catching it. Her lungs are scarred now, she's been hopisalised a few times with dangerously low sats and is on a nebuliser daily.

Lockdowns were a necessary evil in my eyes, however poorly executed.

 

[MikeH72]

Are folk still arguing about this. Let's just all agree that Trump was really, it came from China and Bill Gates controls us all via the microchip vaccines delivery system.

We're all good now, Bill is a benign master and the new world order ain't so bad.

This is quite a frändly discussion/debate as opposed to an argument mert. The frothing deranged fascistic zealots haven’t arrived yet

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

This is quite a frändly discussion/debate as opposed to an argument mert. The frothing deranged fascistic zealots haven’t arrived yet

I'm here? Can I help?

Now put on your face mask, self-isolate and don't leave the house until you've tested negative for 15 weeks straight.

 

[MikeH72]

I'm here? Can I help?

Now put on your face mask, self-isolate and don't leave the house until you've tested negative for 15 weeks straight.

Don’t you have some dog walkers alone in the woods to harass and grass up?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Don’t you have some dog walkers alone in the woods to harass and grass up?

No, they're all in covid jail on intubators as preventative punishment.

 

[RAFUH]

This is quite a frändly discussion/debate as opposed to an argument mert. The frothing deranged fascistic zealots haven’t arrived yet

I'm not fascistic, but this thread can and has made me a frothy zealot!

 

[MikeH72]

Nobody can have natural immunity from a new virus.

I haven’t ever said that people had natural immunity before they caught it.

 

[MikeH72]

@spectateur read further on mate, it’s already been clarified what I meant.

 

[RAFUH]

Whilst true for a lot of viruses, not necessarily true for the COVID SARS type of virus.

It is true for COVID. You will have good immunity to the variant you had.

There is still some question about how much cross-immunity you have to other variants of COVID post infection.