Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Martin Alvito said:
Cooping everyone up, then opening the floodgates all at once, is not the way. At least we were smart enough to re-open by degrees, so that we didn't break the health care system over our collective knee. We strained it pretty hard a few times, but nothing like what they're likely to face.

I suspect the objective is demonstrating that the nanny surveillance state knows best, and that any casualties are considered necessary fallout by the politicians.
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Is a good point this. People tend to forget the point of lockdowns. To stop health services being completely overwhelmed by unmanageable waves of admissions.

In the UK, they told us this every day, showing the data of hospital admissions, explaining the lag between new case numbers, hospital admissions and deaths, etc, but many now are just saying “well lockdowns didn’t stop the virus spreading, so were completely pointless, and we’ve damaged our economies for nothing”.

Amazing how quickly people forget.
 
Amw79 said:
Is a good point this. People tend to forget the point of lockdowns. To stop health services being completely overwhelmed by unmanageable waves of admissions.

In the UK, they told us this every day, showing the data of hospital admissions, explaining the lag between new case numbers, hospital admissions and deaths, etc, but many now are just saying “well lockdowns didn’t stop the virus spreading, so were completely pointless, and we’ve damaged our economies for nothing”.

Amazing how quickly people forget.
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I fear that they are going to be severely reminded in the next couple of months.
 
Amw79 said:
Is a good point this. People tend to forget the point of lockdowns. To stop health services being completely overwhelmed by unmanageable waves of admissions.

In the UK, they told us this every day, showing the data of hospital admissions, explaining the lag between new case numbers, hospital admissions and deaths, etc, but many now are just saying “well lockdowns didn’t stop the virus spreading, so were completely pointless, and we’ve damaged our economies for nothing”.

Amazing how quickly people forget.
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My wife works in schools. She says, at the moment, they've got the worst attendance rate in their history, bar when COVID first took its toll and people stayed off.

She explained to me that attendance should be 97% (government target?), and they usually sit between 93% and a little bit above the target.

At the moment, they're lucky to get above 82-85% on a daily basis, while some of their classes have been getting towards the 40-50% mark and ruining the mean.

They've been getting 70%s on that day. She said that they've been told that Alder Hey has been at its busiest in decades and decades.
 
Oddball said:
My community has already been destroyed by successive governments but i digress....you`re really ill and you are vaccinated up the kazoo against the covids so maybe it was the vaccinations that made you ill!
What`s the point in being vaccinated when it doesn`t stop you getting corono or even from passing the corono on, even?
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Plenty of reasonos . Have a little thinko abouto what they might be.
 
verreauxi said:
More dumb anti-vax nonsense to look out for. This review looks at the idiotic film "died suddenly"

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Yeah, this stuff is getting a lot of attention. There has been an unusual number of excess deaths in the last year, significantly above the 5 year average.

About half of those excess deaths have been Covid, but there’s been a lot of discussion about the other half. There’s been a variety of studies looking at the increases in cardiovascular and diabetes deaths, and most are pointing to decimated health services missing early diagnoses, as well as ambulance services deficiencies - i.e a heart attack is much more likely to be fatal if it takes an ambulance 8 hours to get to you.

Of course, the usual suspects are claiming it’s the vaccine causing it, without much evidence to support it, starting with the conclusion and trying to work backwards.
 
Amw79 said:
Yeah, this stuff is getting a lot of attention. There has been an unusual number of excess deaths in the last year, significantly above the 5 year average.

About half of those excess deaths have been Covid, but there’s been a lot of discussion about the other half. There’s been a variety of studies looking at the increases in cardiovascular and diabetes deaths, and most are pointing to decimated health services missing early diagnoses, as well as ambulance services deficiencies - i.e a heart attack is much more likely to be fatal if it takes an ambulance 8 hours to get to you.

Of course, the usual suspects are claiming it’s the vaccine causing it, without much evidence to support it, starting with the conclusion and trying to work backwards.
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If anything, the trend seems to be that long term and lingering effects of Covid are forcing people to stay in hospitals longer and the instances of Covid hospital admissions are having an impact.

Therl main reason for ambulance delay is lack of beds to handover patients (caused by an inability of hospitals to effectively discharge patients into social care and Covid cases still occupying beds).

But yes..vaccines
 
Amw79 said:
Yeah, this stuff is getting a lot of attention. There has been an unusual number of excess deaths in the last year, significantly above the 5 year average.

About half of those excess deaths have been Covid, but there’s been a lot of discussion about the other half. There’s been a variety of studies looking at the increases in cardiovascular and diabetes deaths, and most are pointing to decimated health services missing early diagnoses, as well as ambulance services deficiencies - i.e a heart attack is much more likely to be fatal if it takes an ambulance 8 hours to get to you.

Of course, the usual suspects are claiming it’s the vaccine causing it, without much evidence to support it, starting with the conclusion and trying to work backwards.
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The problem with this sort of thing is it can be a mixture of all things but as usual two camps are formed and its either the Covid vaccines are dangerous or that the vaccines are perfect with little inbetween.

I imagine more will come oot in the wash with the vaccines long term as seems to be a lot of people who've suffered cardiac problems following vaccination (look at the spate of PL games stopping over fans having cardiac arrests during the vaccination rollout).

But at the same time they'll obviously be other factors for other excess deaths that are not linked to the vaccines.

I posted on here over a year ago that I had awful pains in my arm lasting for months after the 2nd Pfizer jab which funnily enough subsided for a period then I caught Covid, recovered fine then a few days after I started testing negative I started getting awful pains in the same arm.

Went to my GP about it and was fobbed off as just muscle aches. Which is the issue a lot of people will face for some time as the medical community just dont know at this early stage what long term affects both Covid + the Covid jabs have.
 
Flying back for Christmas on Weds and supposed to have a team Christmas dinner tomorrow night. Half the people in the team have been in and out of the office with all types of viruses and infections lately, and I have already had to cancel 3 trips due to illness this year, so if anyone can think of potentially a good excuse I can use to get out of the dinner, then feel free to post it here.....
 
Billy Dean said:
Flying back for Christmas on Weds and supposed to have a team Christmas dinner tomorrow night. Half the people in the team have been in and out of the office with all types of viruses and infections lately, and I have already had to cancel 3 trips due to illness this year, so if anyone can think of potentially a good excuse I can use to get out of the dinner, then feel free to post it here.....
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Just say you don’t like them. Works for me every time ;)
 
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