Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[MikeH72]

The risks of catching COVID appear to have aligned with the risks of taking the vaccine.

Very unfortunate.

I have honestly yet to hear a credible benefit of vaccinating a child. “Because the benefits outweigh the risk of catching covid” doesn’t actually make sense because the virus seemingly doesn’t care if you’ve been vaccinated or not, it’s still going to infect you regardless.

I completely understand the vaccinating the elderly and vulnerable by the way before anyone starts throwing “anti vax” straw men about. But kids and healthy young adults, I have yet to be convinced on any level. Each to their own, I’m not telling anyone they shouldn’t get vaccinated or vaccinate their kids, I’m an advocate of freedom of choice.

 

[CharliePotato]

I have honestly yet to hear a credible benefit of vaccinating a child. “Because the benefits outweigh the risk of catching covid” doesn’t actually make sense because the virus seemingly doesn’t care if you’ve been vaccinated or not, it’s still going to infect you regardless.

I completely understand the vaccinating the elderly and vulnerable by the way before anyone starts throwing “anti vax” straw men about. But kids and healthy young adults, I have yet to be convinced on any level.

Agree on every level.

 

[Jebus_lives]

If you’re vaccinated and then end up catching covid anyway, which is happening, are you then actually increasing your risk of myocarditis compared to if you’d just caught covid? How does this work? I actually don’t know.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that - perhaps others may have - but the general trend is that if you are vaccinated, then catch Covid you reduce the risk across a range of factors.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I have honestly yet to hear a credible benefit of vaccinating a child. “Because the benefits outweigh the risk of catching covid” doesn’t actually make sense because the virus seemingly doesn’t care if you’ve been vaccinated or not, it’s still going to infect you regardless.

I completely understand the vaccinating the elderly and vulnerable by the way before anyone starts throwing “anti vax” straw men about. But kids and healthy young adults, I have yet to be convinced on any level. Each to their own, I’m not telling anyone they shouldn’t get vaccinated or vaccinate their kids, I’m an advocate of freedom of choice.

It's the same as in adults: vaccination against covid can lower your risk of getting and spreading Covid. Vaccines can also prevent serious likelihood of serious illness and death.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Nearly as clued up as you wanting to jab kids lad.

I'm not quite sure why you're against protecting kids lad?

 

[luuk_deventer]

It's the same as in adults: vaccination against covid can lower your risk of getting and spreading Covid. Vaccines can also prevent serious likelihood of serious illness and death.

The evidence supporting this is very, very weak.

It has shown a very minimal impact on transmission for a very short period of time only.

 

[Jebus_lives]

The risks of catching COVID appear to have aligned with the risks of taking the vaccine.

Very unfortunate.

Not really, but I'm sure it makes sense to you.

 

[MikeH72]

It's the same as in adults: vaccination against covid can lower your risk of getting and spreading Covid. Vaccines can also prevent serious likelihood of serious illness and death.

There is no serious likelihood of serious illness or death for that age group though. And clearly it doesn’t reduce the risk of catching and spreading it that much, because everyone who has it seems to be fully vaccinated that I know of.

 

[luuk_deventer]

Not really, but I'm sure it makes sense to you.

Why are you being so hostile?

We can disagree without being rude.

 

[Jebus_lives]

The evidence supporting this is very, very weak.

It has shown a very minimal impact on transmission for a very short period of time only.

That's why "can" is in there. Happy to help.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Why so hostile?

We can disagree without being rude.

Would a laughing emoji suit better?

 

[luuk_deventer]

Would a laughing emoji suit better?

Ok I am sorry if I antagonised, I did not mean to be insincere, I honestly thought you were being sarcastic.

 

[Jebus_lives]

There is no serious likelihood of serious illness or death for that age group though. And clearly it doesn’t reduce the risk of catching and spreading it that much, because everyone who has it seems to be fully vaccinated that I know of.

"No serious likelihood of serious illness" does not mean no likelihood of serious illness.

The advice from JCVI and the UKHSA is that in children the vaccine benefit outweighs the negative.

And your experience is not indicative of statistical data. Vaccines can lower your risk of spreading Covid (it might be marginal but a difference of 1-2% in a population can have massive differences).

 

[Jebus_lives]

Ok I am sorry if I antagonised, I did not mean to be insincere, I honestly thought you were being sarcastic.

About what?

 

[luuk_deventer]

"No serious likelihood of serious illness" does not mean no likelihood of serious illness.

The advice from JCVI and the UKHSA is that in children the vaccine benefit outweighs the negative.

And your experience is not indicative of statistical data. Vaccines can lower your risk of spreading Covid (it might be marginal but a difference of 1-2% in a population can have massive differences).

Is it 1-2%? If it's only a 1-2% impact for 1-2 weeks, I would not class that as a benefit, certainly not for the person being vaccinated anyway.

Especially when it is still unknown how frequently serious side effects like myocarditis occurs post vaccination. We just know it is a risk.