Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[MikeH72]

Again, I'm not sure how that strengthens your argument.

There is barely a risk involved in a parent choosing not to vaccinate their child? The vaccine won’t stop them passing it on to other people, and will “protect” them against a virus that statistically is barely going to affect them. What’s this huge risk that the parents are taking?

 

[Jebus_lives]

Erm, he’s just said they won’t do a prostate cancer screening unless you’ve had symptoms?? It’s literally there in the post right above mine.

He said "as he knows, in his area".

Is he correct? Is that the same nationally? Could it be that in some areas health commissioning differs from others? Could the GP he's spoken to be wrong?

Because GPs are advised not to raise the issue, but if you raise prostate testing with your GP, even if a-symptomatic, they should offer you a test.

Prostate cancer

Find out about prostate cancer, including the symptoms, causes and treatments.

www.nhs.uk

"If you are over 50, you can ask a GP for a PSA test.

PSA tests are not routinely used to screen for prostate cancer, as results can be unreliable.

Your PSA level can also be raised by other, non-cancerous conditions".

 

[Jebus_lives]

There is barely a risk involved in a parent choosing not to vaccinate their child? The vaccine won’t stop them passing it on to other people, and will “protect” them against a virus that statistically is barely going to affect them. What’s this huge risk that the parents are taking?

There is barely any risk (lower based on current evidence) involved in a parent vaccinating their eligible child.

 

[verreauxi]

Who wins is obvious. I think special powers were granted to governments in a crisis situation and there is now a political motivation to keep those powers. Lots of powerful people have been very happy with the events of the last two years too.

^^^^^^This needs unpacking^^^^^^ What does it mean?

 

[MikeH72]

There is barely any risk (lower based on current evidence) involved in a parent vaccinating their eligible child.

So there’s barely a risk either way, so why does it matter so much to people that everyone gets their children vaccinated? Why not just let them or even the child make their own minds up?

 

[tsubaki]

So there’s barely a risk either way, so why does it matter so much to people that everyone gets their children vaccinated? Why not just let them or even the child make their own minds up?

er - that’s what they are doing?

 

[CharliePotato]

Can potatoes catch Covid lad?

They will probably be included in the registered deaths yeah, in any case I wouldn’t vaccinate infant potatoes for the sake of it.

 

[CharliePotato]

All about framing.

What @CharliePotato meant to say was "you stick to vaccinating kids and protecting the population, while I continue to peddle myth and misinformation and put people at risk lad".

Is right lad.

 

[Jebus_lives]

So there’s barely a risk either way, so why does it matter so much to people that everyone gets their children vaccinated? Why not just let them or even the child make their own minds up?

I haven't told anyone they need to get their children vaccinated.

I've given factual information as to why the benefits outweigh the risks (they do) and asked people why they didn't want their kids vaccinated (I'm genuinely interested).

As for others, particularly public health colleagues and epidemiologists, they might point to the main risk of vaccination in younger people as Myocarditis, then note that there are on average far more risks associated with actually getting the virus - pericarditis, arrythmia, myocarditis following infection (last time I checked this was at a higher than all other scenarios).

But it's not just clinicians that should be making that decision either it should fall to a range of people from a range of disciplines (which is how national public health decision making happens).

 

[Jebus_lives]

They will probably be included in the registered deaths yeah, in any case I wouldn’t vaccinate infant potatoes for the sake of it.

Doubt it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Is right lad.

You seem really clued up lad.

 

[MikeH72]

I haven't told anyone they need to get their children vaccinated.

I've given factual information as to why the benefits outweigh the risks (they do) and asked people why they didn't want their kids vaccinated (I'm genuinely interested).

As for others, particularly public health colleagues and epidemiologists, they might point to the main risk of vaccination in younger people as Myocarditis, then note that there are on average far more risks associated with actually getting the virus - pericarditis, arrythmia, myocarditis following infection (last time I checked this was at a higher than all other scenarios).

But it's not just clinicians that should be making that decision either it should fall to a range of people from a range of disciplines (which is how national public health decision making happens).

If you’re vaccinated and then end up catching covid anyway, which is happening, are you then actually increasing your risk of myocarditis compared to if you’d just caught covid? How does this work? I actually don’t know.

 

[Jebus_lives]

er - that’s what they are doing?

It's a struggle sometimes isn't it.

 

[luuk_deventer]

If you’re vaccinated and then end up catching covid anyway, which is happening, are you then actually increasing your risk of myocarditis compared to if you’d just caught covid? How does this work? I actually don’t know.

The risks of catching COVID appear to have aligned with the risks of taking the vaccine.

Very unfortunate.

 

[CharliePotato]

You seem really clued up lad.

Nearly as clued up as you wanting to jab kids lad.