Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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TN Toffee
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Or…and hear me out…just go and get the damn vaccine?
I'm prepared to be wrong on this, but I suspect that if people had a valid medical reason then they would be exempt from the requirement. So what does that leave you with because it seems to be me that the only people left are people who don't believe in the medical science promoted by their employer, who is, in turn, trying to use that medical science on us.
Not everybody can! Or want to!
If people don't want to get it then its fine by me. I think primarily now they are only hurting themselves by not getting it.
However legal enforcement of mandatory vaccinations is a very slippery slope.
How can staff have any credibility if they don't believe something their employer has pushed enormously as both safe and effective is either safe or effective? They're clearly working for an employer who they don't believe can be trusted to do what is right with regards to people's health. I'm not sure how that can possibly be tenable.
Holliday in human form.
This.
If the Vaxx rate is 95% with 2 and a booster.
So anybody left seems willing to take their chances, albeit in debt to the good sense / will of the 95% and the price of that debt maybe you're barred from going to the footy.
Tough; choices have consequences, with rights comes responsibility.
Govts may have the power to enforce it, but that doesn't make it right.
Because the next question is - what else might they decide they need to do to you of a medical nature...all for your own good ovbs.
And when, if ever it hypothetically might happen, would the person holding the needle say - I was only following orders.
Slippery slope indeed.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Another conspiracy theorist.
The fact that was a peer for about 25 years and barely voted once in each of those years tells you all you need to know about that twunt.
Problem with slippery slope arguments is you can apply them to almost anything.
We all pay a % of our income as taxes. Is this a slippery slope to the government taking all our income by force? Maybe, but that argument dosen’t get anyone out of paying tax. Is a 30 mph speed limit a slippery slope to the government insisting all traffic is permanently stationary? Possibly, but you’ll still get a ticket if you break the speed limit. And most people would agree with taxes and speed limits as they recognise the greater good.
That said, I don’t think mandatory vax is appropriate at this stage. Large % of population is already vaxxed, a % of the unvaxxed have natural immunity, and Covid is pretty much endemic now.
But I can definitely imagine a scenario where mandatory vaxxes would be justified, something like a combination of a really transmissible virus, which was badly lethal across all groups, and a very large vax-hesitant population. Difficult balance to strike.
The victims are the people that suffer due to a run down and understaffed NHS.
My sister works for the NHS and is dead against the vaccine mandates. She doesn’t view her colleagues as selfish arseholes, that seems to be an issue with you. Her and her colleagues point the finger where it deserves to be pointed - at the government.
So you want people who don't believe either the NHS or medical science working for the NHS?
TN Toffee
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I still think a fairly reasonable middle ground to strike is to make it such that unvaccinated people are personally responsible for any health care costs incurred in the event they get sick from COVID. Obviously exceptions should be made for people who have legit medical reasons for not being able to get vaxxed. This would likely push some of the holdouts over the line when it was their own money they were risking, and would also prevent the larger society from having to pick up the tab for people who chose to engage in anti-social behavior.
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