Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

The court case will be very illuminating.

Group of NHS medics launch legal bid against compulsory ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › society › jan › group-of...

Covid-19 vaccines and treatments: we must have raw data, now​

https://www.bmj.com › content › bmj

The doctor launching the court case said, 'Ive had covid so I'm protected'. Seems like the CDC agrees.

COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations by COVID-19 Vaccination​

https://www.cdc.gov › mmwr › volumes

At the start of that CDC report it says

What is added by this report?

During May–November 2021, case and hospitalization rates were highest among persons who were unvaccinated without a previous diagnosis. Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Although the epidemiology of COVID-19 might change as new variants emerge, vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death. Primary vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended for all eligible persons. Additional future recommendations for vaccine doses might be warranted as the virus and immunity levels change.

 

[ramacca]

At the start of that CDC report it says

What is added by this report?

During May–November 2021, case and hospitalization rates were highest among persons who were unvaccinated without a previous diagnosis. Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.

What are the implications for public health practice?

Although the epidemiology of COVID-19 might change as new variants emerge, vaccination remains the safest strategy for averting future SARS-CoV-2 infections, hospitalizations, long-term sequelae, and death. Primary vaccination, additional doses, and booster doses are recommended for all eligible persons. Additional future recommendations for vaccine doses might be warranted as the virus and immunity levels change.

Unvaccinated NHS doctor challenges Sajid Javid over ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › politics › jan › nhs-doct...

James replied: “Maybe there is an opportunity to reconsider with Omicron and the changing picture, or at least the nuance that will allow doctors who have had antibody exposure, who’ve got antibodies, who haven’t had the vaccination, to not have it, because the protection I’ve got is probably equivalent to someone who is vaccinated.”

According to the CDC, 'By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone"

It appears the doctor was correct. There were many many NHS staff, and care workers, and not just doctors, who had caught covid and had protection. So it was a misguided idea, to introduce widespread compulsory vaccinations for all NHS and care staff, without taking into account prior infection.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Unvaccinated NHS doctor challenges Sajid Javid over ...​

https://www.theguardian.com › politics › jan › nhs-doct...

James replied: “Maybe there is an opportunity to reconsider with Omicron and the changing picture, or at least the nuance that will allow doctors who have had antibody exposure, who’ve got antibodies, who haven’t had the vaccination, to not have it, because the protection I’ve got is probably equivalent to someone who is vaccinated.”

According to the CDC, 'By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone"

It appears the doctor was correct. There were many many NHS staff, and care workers, and not just doctors, who had caught covid and had protection. So it was a misguided idea, to introduce widespread compulsory vaccinations for all NHS and care staff, without taking into account prior infection.

As you say “By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.” but also “Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone.”

Delta and Alpha seem to have had different impacts - as far as I’m aware we don’t have equivalent data for Omicron.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Ghost Rider]

Day 9, still showing as positive ffs

I can't be infectious today and not infectious tomorrow. Makes no sense. Haven't had any sickness symptoms for days either.

What is the official thoughts on 9 days positive? Other than stay in the house? ?

 

[Ivo]

Just tested positive this morning. Was up all night shivering despite having a temperature. Aching all over now, like I've been hit by a bus.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Ok so I found one of the tests we have been using for the past 2 weeks and I have tested negative in it after a faint line yesterday.

So the test I got sent from track and trace is positive, very much so after 9 days.

The tests from the pharmacy I picked up as this all kicked off is telling me I am negative.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Just tested positive this morning. Was up all night shivering despite having a temperature. Aching all over now, like I've been hit by a bus.

Wishing you a swift recovery.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Day 9, still showing as positive ffs

I can't be infectious today and not infectious tomorrow. Makes no sense. Haven't had any sickness symptoms for days either.

What is the official thoughts on 9 days positive? Other than stay in the house? ?

This might be helpful, glad you are over your symptoms.

How long you can test positive for Covid, and the Omicron incubation period explained

Scientists believe Omicron may be quicker to infect people than older strains like Delta and Alpha

inews.co.uk

 

[Ghost Rider]

This might be helpful, glad you are over your symptoms.

How long you can test positive for Covid, and the Omicron incubation period explained

Scientists believe Omicron may be quicker to infect people than older strains like Delta and Alpha

inews.co.uk

So based on that, good chance I'm not infectious.

Just bizarre the whole experience for me. To be Ill before a positive test and then to keep getting positive tests long after the symptoms have cleared?

My first experience with covid and its just been odd. Why it took 5 days after everyone else as well, despite being in the same house.

 

[Amw79]

Woah. What does it mean?

(It means RSF are bellends)

 

[Wizard]

So based on that, good chance I'm not infectious.

Just bizarre the whole experience for me. To be Ill before a positive test and then to keep getting positive tests long after the symptoms have cleared?

My first experience with covid and its just been odd. Why it took 5 days after everyone else as well, despite being in the same house.

I remember that Dybala from Juventus was testing positive for a over a month early on in the pandemic. At the time you needed two negative tests to allow you to return to training so he was having to isolate the whole time. This is why you don’t have to test to come out of isolation after 10 days as it is assumed you aren’t infectious even if there is residual covid in your system.

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[Ghost Rider]

I remember that Dybala from Juventus was testing positive for a over a month early on in the pandemic. At the time you needed two negative tests to allow you to return to training so he was having to isolate the whole time. This is why you don’t have to test to come out of isolation after 10 days as it is assumed you aren’t infectious even if there is residual covid in your system.

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Ive tested again and I'm negative by tea time , so faint line, strong line , negative all within 24 hours!

Like I say very bizarre , least it means I can go out tomorrow and not have to do anothe iceland shop ?

 

[TN Toffee]

Woah. What does it mean?

(It means RSF are bellends)

IDK. Just trying to wrap my head around how Ireland’s lockdown started four days after the UK’s and ended only three days after yet both somehow lasted 666 days.

 

[Martin Alvito]

So based on that, good chance I'm not infectious.

Just bizarre the whole experience for me. To be Ill before a positive test and then to keep getting positive tests long after the symptoms have cleared?

My first experience with covid and its just been odd. Why it took 5 days after everyone else as well, despite being in the same house.

Short version is: nobody knows, just as no one knows why you get hellishly sick with a bug that the rest of your family obviously got and shrugged off.

Genetic immune system variance? Stronger initial virus load for some reason -> test positive for longer? There's a lot we don't know about the human immune system. We're throwing darts against the wall based on the best information available, when it comes to recommendations.

There's nothing wrong with that; if you want to have a similar discussion about what we know, what we think we know and what we don't know about international politics, I'm happy to have it. You'll probably fall asleep inside of ten minutes, but I'm equipped to have it for longer if you somehow stay awake.