Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Had both jabs, caught Covid and was fine. No more jabs for me, nobody seems to care about developing treatments or giving advice how to be healthier to avoid being at risk of hospitalisation. Just pharma companies pushing their products at this point… won’t be taking any more jabs from now on. A booster that doesn’t stop transmission or affect the chances of me catching it? I’ll take my chances now thanks.
There are multiple trials going on to find what works as treatments - the UK ones are usually under the Recovery brand https://www.recoverytrial.net/ as @maccavennie has experience of.

Here are all the ones ongoing in the US

But these trials take time to prove efficacy and safety and even once passed need to be produced in large quantities.

However prevention is better than cure and the boosters do reduce your chances of catching it and therefore your transmission risk. These protections appear wane but don’t go to zero, 35%-45% (and ~70% for Moderna) is still much better than nothing, and protection against hospitalization is robust.
https://assets.publishing.service.g...t_data/file/1043807/technical-briefing-33.pdf page 25
Among those who received an AstraZeneca primary course, vaccine effectiveness was around 60% 2 to 4 weeks after either a Pfizer or Moderna booster, then dropped to 35% with a Pfizer booster and 45% with a Moderna booster by 10 weeks after the booster. Among those who received a Pfizer primary course, vaccine effectiveness was around 70% after a Pfizer booster, dropping to 45% after 10-plus weeks and stayed around 70 to 75% after a Moderna booster up to 9 weeks after booster.
Should there be more focus on reducing risk factors, well a lot of them can’t be changed like being immune compromised from having an organ transplant.

The ones that can, like obesity, are still very difficult. A “get healthy“ campaign might reach some at the margins but given how strong the resistance is to much simpler things to reduce people‘s risk like wearing a high quality mask I doubt it would make a large difference.
 
Covid is here and Covid isn't going anywhere mate.

If you want to live the rest of your life as we have been the past 2 years then you crack on and leave the rest of us to it.

Omicron is nothing like the last few strains of COVID - it attacks the respiratory system a lot more compared to the vital organs which mimics most mild strains of coronavirus/rhinovirus.

If Omricon near wipes out the other strains in circulation which its on course to do based on the sheer speed of how it transmits then the pandemic is over as it'll only get milder and milder from here.

The other hypothesis is that Omricron itself will force Delta etc to evolve into more milder themselves in order to "keep up" and survive itself.
It doesn't attack the respiratory system more. It develops in the nose and throat but doesn't develop in the lungs anywhere near as much as previous variants. The issue is how transmissible it is and the fact that it means that loads of doctors and nurses are out of work. Not because they are at huge risk of dying, but because loads of them have it and so need to isolate.

Parroting crap about gravy trains doesn't help anyone. We probably have the most relaxed covid rules in the world and you still complain.
 
You asked "why aren't they developing treatments". They have and they are being used. More will come. But you know what the best treatment is? Get a vaccine and get boosted so you don't need those treatments in the first place
You do need the treatments though, because the vaccines don’t stop people catching it. So my point still remains why isn’t there a real focus on early stage treatment that you can administer yourself at home to stop the nhs coming under so much pressure. As far as I know haven’t the monoclonal antibodies been used in the states with a good level of success, if used early enough?
 
You do need the treatments though, because the vaccines don’t stop people catching it. So my point still remains why isn’t there a real focus on early stage treatment that you can administer yourself at home to stop the nhs coming under so much pressure. As far as I know haven’t the monoclonal antibodies been used in the states with a good level of success, if used early enough?
UK are trialing one anti viral to do just that currently

Monoclonal antibodies were used here in the US and were effective during the Delta wave, unfortunately only one of the brands seems effective against Omicron because of that variants mutations in the spike protein.
 
UK are trialing one anti viral to do just that currently

Monoclonal antibodies were used here in the US and were effective during the Delta wave, unfortunately only one of the brands seems effective against Omicron because of that variants mutations in the spike protein.
I heard about that, have they stopped using the other two makes though on the assumption everyone now as omnicron?
 
I heard about that, have they stopped using the other two makes though on the assumption everyone now as omnicron?
Yep, just before Christmas when Omicron became the dominant strain

In theory they could test everyone to see which variant they have (there is still some Delta around) but that takes time and important with the monoclonal antibodies to deliver early in disease.

They aren’t particularly cheap either, over $1000 per infusion plus treatment fees, so not something you just try on the off chance it might be Delta.
 
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