Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Walken]

I don’t understand the anti vax militants, if you don’t want the vaccine, fine, your choice, live with it, don’t want to hear about it. Why disrupt others, who’ve made a different choice. It’s hypocrispy.

That woman pilfering clearly facing a custodial sentence, would you take your medical advice from her on her ability to weigh up risk?

Bananas.…..

Why is it the police treat the groups that need shoeing with kid gloves aswell. Going to a vigil for violently murdered woman? In the paddy wagon with you. But when dholliday and his oxygen deprived family head off to cause carnage at a test and trace center they are left to continue again and again, volley the helmets down a hill

 

[Tipp blue]

No bother mate, the sums don’t make sense is all, in all honesty, I think the cumulative 766 cumulative figure can’t be correct.

I mean even in the above case figures are suspicious, there was 180k cases in the U.K. today, surely it’s more than 35k in in England listed above. The U.K. was posting an average of 40k in Delta all year. While before Xmas and the NI, Scotland, Wales backlog they averaging 100k.

Those figures just don’t look right to me, perhaps they are sampling. I see in the notes on the table that there is a caveat, of just those samples sent to two laboratories….

Someone posted a few pages back that there were 5 days from Northern Ireland included today.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Half my family and friends have currently got it.. it's rife!!

 

[Neiler]

Also, no the maths isn't wrong. It's just that Omicron isn't causing serious illness. If you look at the table, and track back to when Delta was still quite prevalent, you're going back around 14-17 days, which is what we know the lag time is for Delta to Hospital. That is based on previous info from Public Health England.

Omicron spike is going to start going up around now for sure. I'd expect to hit 100+ new hospitalisations tomorrow perhaps? Latest ONS data is 10 days the typical time for Omicron to hospital.

Just looking again mate, I really think that they are daily admission stats, they are presented on the same page as the daily case numbers.

The maths just don’t make sense elsewise. 7% of Delta would be driving almost 90%+ of all hospital admissions.

 

[BlueToff]

No bother mate, the sums don’t make sense is all, in all honesty, I think the cumulative 766 cumulative figure can’t be correct.

I mean even in the above case figures are suspicious, there was 180k cases in the U.K. today, surely it’s more than 35k in in England listed above. The U.K. was posting an average of 40k in Delta all year. While before Xmas and the NI, Scotland, Wales backlog they averaging 100k.

Those figures just don’t look right to me, perhaps they are sampling. I see in the notes on the table that there is a caveat, of just those samples sent to two laboratories….

well perhaps, but it tallies with what we saw in other countries.

Still 98 more people in hospital today with Omicron than yesterday.

Omicron just doesn't cause a lot of people to be hospitalised mate. We do know that. And delta does, which in England/UK we are still firmly in the grips of when it comes to people being hospitalised two weeks later.

 

[BlueToff]

Just looking again mate, I really think that they are daily admission stats, they are presented on the same page as the daily case numbers.

The maths just don’t make sense

Will have to see if someone who knows more than either of us can clear it up!

 

[Neiler]

Will have to see if someone who knows more than either of us can clear it up!

Activate The @LinekersLegs signal! lol

 

[BlueToff]

Just looking again mate, I really think that they are daily admission stats, they are presented on the same page as the daily case numbers.

The maths just don’t make sense elsewise. 7% of Delta would be driving almost 90%+ of all hospital admissions.

but that's ignoring the lag mate...

Delta wasn't at 7% two weeks ago.

 

[BlueToff]

@Neiler I may well be wrong but I can't see any more info that clears it up

 

[Neiler]

Someone posted a few pages back that there were 5 days from Northern Ireland included today.

There’s a backlog from NI, Scotland and Wales reported today mate, I took account of that, which is why I said the average was 100k a week ago. Still if you read Toffs data, it includes the backlog, but the U.K. case numbers today are inflated because of the backlog.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Activate The @LinekersLegs signal! lol

Most of the data nerds I usually turn to help explain the figures are taking a well earned Christmas break so can’t help, sorry!

 

[BlueToff]

For ease, if anyone with a working brain can guess this ^

As Neiler pointed out, not every Omicron case will be getting sampled. But it does say 'for dates up to 27 December', which suggests it is more than one date...

 

[Neiler]

but that's ignoring the lag mate...

Delta wasn't at 7% two weeks ago.

Fair point mate, but Omicron has been here since early Dec, the U.K. were posting 90k cases plus 10 days ago, up from an average of 40-50k at the height of winter Delta supremacy in Nov.

If the hospital figures are correct cumulatively in your data, now that Omicron is dominant at 93%,you’d expect to see hospital admissions fall of a cliff in decreases. I have my suspicions we won’t. Hopefully I’m wrong though!

 

[Neiler]

@Neiler I may well be wrong but I can't see any more info that clears it up

She will play out as she will mate!

 

[Neiler]

well perhaps, but it tallies with what we saw in other countries.

Still 98 more people in hospital today with Omicron than yesterday.

Omicron just doesn't cause a lot of people to be hospitalised mate. We do know that. And delta does, which in England/UK we are still firmly in the grips of when it comes to people being hospitalised two weeks later.

Ha sorry, final word, If there are 98 more people in hospital with Omicron today, that’s 13% increase on the overall cumulative figures of admissions in one day, just can’t make the maths work mate.

Wel see how she play out mate!