You wanna put out the call and welcome them in to your pub this year Pete.
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You wanna put out the call and welcome them in to your pub this year Pete.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The Haggis and Welsh faggots are in the oven……
dholliday
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What do you make of this one, coolio?
SARS–CoV–2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS–CoV–2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID–19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS–CoV–2 infection and directly influences the clinical...
www.mdpi.com
Choice Abstract quote:
---- "Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings imply a potential side effect of the full–length spike–based vaccine. This work will improve the understanding of COVID–19 pathogenesis and provide new strategies for designing more efficient and safer vaccines." ----
Note: this paper has an Expression of Concern, and is due peer-review, but the Abstract appears related to comments made by the UK's Weekly Surveillance Report on the N-antibody levels of vaccinated folk: "N antibody levels are lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination." (page 46 here), as well as more general concerns as voiced in the New York Times piece I linked earlier: "a fourth shot in less than a year could actually weaken immunity...too many shots might cause a sort of immune system fatigue, compromising the body’s ability to fight the coronavirus."
I realise I'm being choice with my quotes...for there are no conclusions drawn and no-one behind these links are rubbishing the vaccines. But I am interpreting there being fair questions to be asked, and investigated upon. And that this relates to generally one of the reasons why the unvaccinated remain hesitant (i.e. unknown long-term effects of MRNA-jabs), and should thus not be demonised for their decision.
There's a grey area here, that's at least what I understand.
I showed you the data, it's in the links. There's graphs breaking down the NHS Data in easily-digestible formats. I even recommended reading in mobile-view to save the headache of DM's desktop-based ads. You're focusing on your dislike of Allison Pearson, when in the same post I listed three links. You can disregard Allison if you don't like her, and check out the other two.
I read the links.
“Daily Mail’s interpretation of NHS data” whilst not showing the actual NHS data to underpin each of the figures except for some very techno graphs that aren’t provided by the NHS.
Dear lord
Toast
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If you’ve got a decent scotch in your place, then I’m in.
dholliday
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Interesting stuff here:
dailysceptic.org
...and finally, how many Covid patients are actually taking up NHS space, in the middle of a peak-wave of the most epic pandemic of the last 100 years?
6%...just 6%...
As Three More Studies Show Negative Vaccine Effectiveness, When Will Health Authorities Face Up to What the Data is Telling Us? – The Daily Sceptic
The last two weeks have brought three new studies finding negative efficacy for two vaccine doses, meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated.
dailysceptic.org
...and finally, how many Covid patients are actually taking up NHS space, in the middle of a peak-wave of the most epic pandemic of the last 100 years?
6%...just 6%...
toffee82
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Around 70% of Covid-positives in hospital didn't end up there because of Covid, rather they caught it in the hospital...this is (or should be) huge news:
News Headlines | Today's UK & World News | Daily Mail Online
All the latest breaking UK and world news with in-depth comment and analysis, pictures and videos from MailOnline and the Daily Mail.www.dailymail.co.uk
Doctor admits people testing positive after admission is major problem
Dr Zudin Puthucheary, a member of the Intensive Care Society and doctor in London, said the number of patients coming into hospital who 'happen to be Covid positive' is skewing hospitalisation statistics.
The Daily Mail is painful to read on desktop mode, but on Mobile with chrome it's a lot easier on the eye....and as rubbish as that site is for other stuff, its pandemic-reporting has been relatively decent.
the Telegraph have reported similar:
Daily Mail and Telegraph?
That's bonus level Tory.
carolinablue232
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Now so critical care/ICU beds instead of all. Do some research if you need to understand the difference first.Interesting stuff here:
As Three More Studies Show Negative Vaccine Effectiveness, When Will Health Authorities Face Up to What the Data is Telling Us? – The Daily Sceptic
The last two weeks have brought three new studies finding negative efficacy for two vaccine doses, meaning the vaccinated are more likely to be infected than the unvaccinated.
...and finally, how many Covid patients are actually taking up NHS space, in the middle of a peak-wave of the most epic pandemic of the last 100 years?
6%...just 6%...
dholliday
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It's really interesting you say that, because how one interprets pandemic-data seems heavily-reliant on whether one identifies as Left or Right.
The Left are generally pro-mandates, pro-rules, pro-vaccines, and like to demonise the unvaccinated.
The Right, or conservative (people, not politicians) tend to be more sceptical of the whole thing, and generally support folk making their own choices.
A quick comparison of highest-rated reader comments from The Guardian vs The Daily Mail confirms this (as it does in other countries, like Germany's Der Spiegel vs Die Welt).
I'm sure Left vs Right didn't use to be so entrenched & predictable. I think Brexit & Trump broke debate, and most people feel the need to choose a side and stick with it, as to associate with the other is to risk banishment from their own. Hence your (and others) dismissing analysis from people or publications you deem to be from the other side, without considering what their analysis is saying.
Regarding the pandemic: the Left are firmly on the side of the Establishment (pro-pharma)...those on 'the Right' feel like dissidents (getting banned, demonisation etc).
If this pandemic had happened in exactly the same way 10-20 years ago, I'd wager there'd be a rough flip in the Left-vs-Right consensus, tho' nowhere near as entrenched.
It's interesting...but also really challenging for those of us who just want to understand stuff without identifying with either Left or Right. A minefield in both directions.
dholliday
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I already did...but you go ahead if you want to make a counter-point.
dholliday
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Thanks, there's a book in there somewhere.
maybe...i'm preaching to a brick wall here. tho' I feel a change in the wind lately...more open scepticism in this thread than there used to be.
So happy to do my bit, however subliminally.
carolinablue232
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You know that’s not what your 6% number is right?
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