Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ForeverBlue92]

Sorry about your adverse reaction. I also know someone IRL who had a (relatively serious - I.e. emergency hospitalisation) adverse reaction to the vaccine (but made a full recovery). It happens. It’s rare, but it happens, and no-one has ever suggested otherwise.

But, yeah, your experience definitely doesn’t make you qualified to speak on the safety of booster shots for all.

NB. My post was somewhat tongue in cheek, on the recent trend of “doing your own research” as a substitute for a scientific consensus, built via peer review, off the back of a cumulative total of decades of education and experience in a field.

The vaccines have been a God send mate - I've always said the vaccines outweigh the risks of COVID however they aint 100% safe therefore im simply speaking from experience as someone under 30 who statistically is very unlikely to die of Covid but also one of the more likely groups to suffer potential bad side effects.

4-6 months post 2 doses there is very little danger of an under 30 dying of COVID therefore why the big push for them to be given a booster? Why the complete lack of disregard of the potential rare but serious side effects such as myocarditis to those particularly in that age group/men?

As I said Covid has become political now and you're either left/right commie/capitalist and now you can add covid fanatic/denier to the ever growing divide in our societies.

Thats why I dont bother "linking up" because as soon as someone see's the name of the poster giving that information they instantly disregard it as you're "not on my side of the fence" so to speak.

 

[Nymzee]

When it gives you mild symptoms and doesn't kill you or send you to hospitals, that's when it's 0% risk.

I actually remember you from last year. Suggesting old people sitting in the park for Christmas dinner. Not sure your version of a moron opinion is any more credible.

But it can still be a risk to others… how are you still not understanding that after 2 years?

I also said nothing about old people eating Christmas dinners in the park?

Although you remember something from last year but signed up this October? Least you’re raising your vaping flag for us.

 

[Ghost Rider]

But it can still be a risk to others… how are you still not understanding that after 2 years?

I also said nothing about old people eating Christmas dinners in the park?

Although you remember something from last year but signed up this October? Least you’re raising your vaping flag for us.

Risk to whom? It's proven at this point it's not the boosted who are at risk. Double jabbed aren't at risk , single jabbed with natural antibodies have substantial protection as well.

Who exactly is 'risk'?

 

[BlueToff]

https://assets.publishing.service.g...043908/20211228_OS_Daily_Omicron_Overview.pdf

Confirmed Omicron cases = 159,204 (up to 27th Dec, 6pm)
Confirmed Omicron hospitlisations (with or because of Omicron, unsure) = 668 (up to and including Boxing Day)
Confirmed Omicron deaths (with or because of Omicron, unsure) = 49 (up to and including Boxing Day)
Also approx: 90% Omicron in the UK now. It is definitely the dominant strain. Numbers of Delta dropping.

@Kev The Rat

That's the latest info available to download from .gov site. Obviously will be out of date when today's data is published tomorrow.

Is 668 people in hospital (with or because of Omicron, we don't know this split for certain) out of 159,204 confirmed cases (and keep in mind, Omicron is asymptomatic in a lot of people, especially those boosted, so they aren't counted) enough to lock down?

 

[Nymzee]

Risk to whom? It's proven at this point it's not the boosted who are at risk. Double jabbed aren't at risk , single jabbed with natural antibodies have substantial protection as well.

Who exactly is 'risk'?

Are you suggesting there are zero double vaxed and/or boosted currently in hospital with COVID?

 

[BlueToff]

Risk to whom? It's proven at this point it's not the boosted who are at risk. Double jabbed aren't at risk , single jabbed with natural antibodies have substantial protection as well.

Who exactly is 'risk'?

Yeah but if people aren't responsible then COVID does have more chance of carrying on spreading and Omicron therefore has more chance of mutating within its hosts and becoming nasty too quickly.

So when you have COVID, you should isolate as long as you have to.

 

[BlueToff]

Are you suggesting there are zero double vaxed and/or boosted currently in hospital with COVID?

and @Ghost Rider

Cold hard stats here my friends

 

[BlueStevie35]

A government that actually decides to do something rather than procrastinate

What would you have done Kev?

 

[Nymzee]

and @Ghost Rider

Cold hard stats here my friends

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But I thought it’s only a risk to those without vaccinations/boosters?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Brilliant day today. See you all tomorrow

 

[dholliday]

I also said nothing about old people eating Christmas dinners in the park?

To be fair all you said was old people should be banned from going for walks in the park...

I think it’s just much simpler to ban everyone from doing it. Like I said, we’re allowed out once per day to exercise. If old people like to walk they can achieve that going up and down their street they don’t need a national park which attracts lots of people from all over the country.

That, my friend, is common sense.

Because my local park is literally about 100m from my house but I could just run up and down my street and just as easily avoid people. Older people don’t need empowering they’re allowed to leave the house to walk; no one is discriminating them by asking people not to drive to national parks for walks. The vulnerable shouldn’t leave the house whatsoever of course.

But that’s creating a job where there wasn’t one. You said you live in a village that’s probably surrounded by wide open spaces to walk in. What makes the national park any different to those? I live next to the Lakes and even I’m not going out there for walks anymore.

 

[Nymzee]

To be fair all you said was old people should be banned from going for walks in the park...

Me suggesting people can go for walks in lockdown that don’t have to be a National Park is me saying they should go eat their Christmas dinners in the park? I am most confused at the quantum leap there.

 

[dholliday]

and @Ghost Rider

Cold hard stats here my friends

So if 26% of total Omicron-hospitalised are unvaccinated...and the total amount of the population who are unvaccinated is around the same percentage...then why are the unvaccinated getting the blame for everything?

 

[Kev The Rat]

What would you have done Kev?

I wouldn’t have assumed that of all the countries in Europe including those in the UK, that England are the only ones somehow following the right strategy

 

[Ghost Rider]

Are you suggesting there are zero double vaxed and/or boosted currently in hospital with COVID?

With covid or because of covid?

Two completely different meanings.

Yeah but if people aren't responsible then COVID does have more chance of carrying on spreading and Omicron therefore has more chance of mutating within its hosts and becoming nasty too quickly.

So when you have COVID, you should isolate as long as you have to.

Two years in though and it's infecting everyone and mutating weaker. I still don't get this attitude that it may get worse when we have proof that a combination of vaccines and antibodies all over the world are making the virus weaker. How long do you keep saying that until people just hold their hands up and admit that covid now isn't the same covid 18 months ago.

There is even an article today saying just that.