Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Tipp blue]

well done on having learned absolutely nothing from two years,170,000 dead and several trillion pound

Source for the several trillion pounds please... normality will return, the point of acceptable risk is almost here for people to get back to normal, just like we accept risks every time we get into a car and basically every activity we engage in, it all involves risks once it gets to a point of the risk being acceptable then it's over..

 

[WA Toffee]

Western Australia had it's first community transmission in over 9 months yesterday. Today there are 5 cases. A backpacker that arrived in the state last week and went to pretty much every bar and nightclub. I'm sure that 5 will increase quite rapidly over the next few days.

It was good while it lasted, but I suppose we had to get exposed to it at some point

 

[Kev The Rat]

Source for the several trillion pounds please... normality will return, the point of acceptable risk is almost here for people to get back to normal, just like we accept risks every time we get into a car and basically every activity we engage in, it all involves risks once it gets to a point of the risk being acceptable then it's over..

Think again….

COVID in Europe: Netherlands to reopen shops and hairdressers

Here's a round-up of the COVID situation across Europe.

www.euronews.com

 

[Charro]

Academic literature.

Merry Christmas everyone.

 

[toffee82]

well done on having learned absolutely nothing from two years,170,000 dead and several trillion pound

To be fair, if hospitalisations are reduced by 70% then deaths probably even more so.

That 170,000 figure would have been dramatically reduced and, over a two year period, been similar to most expected flu figures.

In that time, how many missed routine treatments diagnosis and other issues have been sidelined?

We are not out of the woods yet but soon the risks of covid will be weighed up like everything else in healthcare.

 

[tsubaki]

Source for the several trillion pounds please... normality will return, the point of acceptable risk is almost here for people to get back to normal, just like we accept risks every time we get into a car and basically every activity we engage in, it all involves risks once it gets to a point of the risk being acceptable then it's over..

Sorry, it’s nearly a trillion by now not several trillion:

Coronavirus: Economic impact

The pandemic led to a severe recession, followed by a strong recovery. This briefing examines different aspects of the economic impact of the pandemic to date and outlines the key issues for the economic outlook, including the Omicron variant.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk

As for risks, please note that when you get in a car a lot of those risks you face are managed by the state (drivers all being required to have had training, drivers required to follow a common code of behaviour, cars designed to be safe, roads maintained adequately, cops patrolling roads to detect and remove miscreants etc).

That’s what we need to do with this, not just let it roam about and infect whoever it likes.

 

[Tipp blue]

Think again….

COVID in Europe: Netherlands to reopen shops and hairdressers

Here's a round-up of the COVID situation across Europe.

www.euronews.com

Like I said in the previous post, if governments continue counting cases then they'll drag it out a bit longer..

 

[Tipp blue]

Sorry, it’s nearly a trillion by now not several trillion:

Coronavirus: Economic impact

The pandemic led to a severe recession, followed by a strong recovery. This briefing examines different aspects of the economic impact of the pandemic to date and outlines the key issues for the economic outlook, including the Omicron variant.

commonslibrary.parliament.uk

As for risks, please note that when you get in a car a lot of those risks you face are managed by the state (drivers all being required to have had training, drivers required to follow a common code of behaviour, cars designed to be safe, roads maintained adequately, cops patrolling roads to detect and remove miscreants etc).

That’s what we need to do with this, not just let it roam about and infect whoever it likes.

We do with many other infectious diseases that can kill.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Like I said in the previous post, if governments continue counting cases then they'll drag it out a bit longer..

they will, and 'a bit longer' I would suggest is actually years, given the seemingly limitless potential for variants.

 

[tsubaki]

We do with many other infectious diseases that can kill.

We don’t let them spread unchecked amongst the population though?

 

[Ghost Rider]

This is massive, if it turns out to be true then it's over, a small fraction of those who catch covid end up in hospital if the chances of ending up in hospital are reduced by near 70% then they can't possibly keep restrictions and lockdowns up for much longer, this coupled with the anti viral medication that's about to come along means that there's pretty much nothing to worry about.. the only thing that will drag this thing on for much longer is positive cases having to isolate, people staying at home with a runny nose, sore throat or headache needs to be binned that's the biggest issue facing health services now, the danger from the disease is no longer the biggest threat to normality returning, it's media, government and experts enjoying their time in the spotlight a little too much and not wanting to step away from it.

Vaccines work man.

The problem is not covid anymore and only the most hard up on the worst case scenario would disagree with that. Variant is dominant and more mild, 90% of adult population vaccinated and half of those boosted as well and it's proven at this point through different data from different countries that vaccine protects.

The problem now is the unvaccinated. The same drum beat being drummed for the past 12 months is seeing results now. If every adult was vaccinated, we wouldn't need any restriction, any mask , any worry of deaths.

It's the unvaccinated going to hospital taking up beds, it's them that are 'risk' and sadly we aren't letting them get on with it and still cater to their idiotic ideas to knowing better than the rest of the world.

 

[Tipp blue]

they will, and 'a bit longer' I would suggest is actually years, given the seemingly limitless potential for variants.

Do you honestly think that people will continue to go for tests if this carries on much longer? It will get to a point where mild symptoms will just be ignored by the public which is like greater than 95% of infections. The virus has started down the road of becoming endemic there may well be variants that are more severe that pop up every now and then just like flu....

 

[Kev The Rat]

Do you honestly think that people will continue to go for tests if this carries on much longer? It will get to a point where mild symptoms will just be ignored by the public whish is like greater than 95% of infections. The virus has started down the road of becoming endemic there may well be variants that are more severe that pop up every now and then just like flu....

It depends if governments continue to fund testing and prioritise track and trace etc.

If as I suspect they will, then yes the public will continue to test.

Even now 50% of the population want anyone who has been in contact with a contaminated patient to be quarantined.

The public will be led by government policy, whatever that happens to be.

 

[Tipp blue]

It depends if governments continue to fund testing and prioritise track and trace etc.

If as I suspect they will, then yes the public will continue to test.

Even now 50% of the population want anyone who has been in contact with a contaminated patient to be quarantined.

The public will be led by government policy, whatever that happens to be.

I disagree.. as time passes people grow to accept things as a threat that can be lived with.. this will be one of them, nobody cared about having cold symptoms in the past and it will return to that, vault me on this.. by this time next year free testing will have stopped for the public.

 

[BlueToff]

I disagree.. as time passes people grow to accept things as a threat that can be lived with.. this will be one of them, nobody cared about having cold symptoms in the past and it will return to that, vault me on this.. by this time next year free testing will have stopped for the public.

I was baffled to learn last night that free rapid testing isn’t available in the Netherlands

The PCRs are free and they can collect rapid tests when travelling through an airport, though