Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

We need more hospitals, why havent nurses training become free?

Who wants to be a nurse right now?

Plus, it takes years.

 

[tsubaki]

Writes 1 million paragraphs but after one line you know he's an anti vax loonie.

He's completely wrong anyway.

in his defence he has been posting loon commentary since before COVID was a thing

 

[tsubaki]

Who wants to be a nurse right now?

Plus, it takes years.

TBF with the old vocational training that time could be lessened

 

[Amw79]

Good news. Only question for SAGE and the gov now, is how high the case rate will peak, and whether this peak would cause more hospitalisations than NHS can manage, given the confirmation of milder incidence.

 

[coollino]

Good news. Only question for SAGE and the gov now, is how high the case rate will peak, and whether this peak would cause more hospitalisations than NHS can manage, given the confirmation of milder incidence.

Mainly good for vaccination individuals but a difficult for governments to deal with imo

 

[grandjoeblue]

Good news. Only question for SAGE and the gov now, is how high the case rate will peak, and whether this peak would cause more hospitalisations than NHS can manage, given the confirmation of milder incidence.

Wonder if rather than full lockdown they might consider in-between measures such as limited capacity for indoor venues and closing say nightclubs and large events? Even an 8pm curfew is better than full closures.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I bet Boris is dying to pull the trigger for a lockdown but doesn't want the grief that would come with cancelling Christmas so is holding fire till after Boxing day.

 

[Amw79]

Wonder if rather than full lockdown they might consider in-between measures such as limited capacity for indoor venues and closing say nightclubs and large events? Even an 8pm curfew is better than full closures.

This is my preferred approach given what I understand at this point.

 

[Amw79]

Mainly good for vaccination individuals but a difficult for governments to deal with imo

Yeah, very difficult one. The gov pulled the trigger on lockdowns too late on both previous occasions, so I’d suspect are wary of waiting until it’s too late.

My instinct is that lockdowns arent required this time round, but I’m far from certain about that, and glad I don’t have to make the decision, as getting it wrong either way will have bad consequences.

 

[BlueToff]

TBF with the old vocational training that time could be lessened

that's true, obviously the process can be sped up but it isn't just as simple as saying 'more nurses'

I think they should be paid more, I think support could be better, but still, I don't think it's a profession millions are going to want to go into right now...

 

[BlueToff]

I bet Boris is dying to pull the trigger for a lockdown but doesn't want the grief that would come with cancelling Christmas so is holding fire till after Boxing day.

exact opposite tbf I think mate. If there's one thing he doesn't want, it's another lockdown.

 

[BlueToff]

This is my preferred approach given what I understand at this point.

I think putting a cap on venues while annoying is sensible for a month or so.

Curfews can't be a thing. Either shut places with support or keep them open.

The main issue really is still the NHS frontline staffing though.

 

[grandjoeblue]

This is my preferred approach given what I understand at this point.

It's a tough decision as it's difficult to see how London is performing due to some testing shortages but generally the growth appears to be a bit slower than initially anticipated. The positive rate in London isn't that high and hospitalisations are still significantly lower than last year. With London being a week or so ahead of the UK you'd think most areas will be ok until January.

I think schools being closed will help over the next two weeks too.

Also you could argue that measures should be aimed at the unvaccinated as without them hospitalisations at the moment would be very low and manageable.

 

[grandjoeblue]

I think putting a cap on venues while annoying is sensible for a month or so.

Curfews can't be a thing. Either shut places with support or keep them open.

The main issue really is still the NHS frontline staffing though.

The 7 day isolation will help, the staff who were off last week will be back this week. It's not ideal but it might be manageable, they probably shouldn't have to isolate for contacts either.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

TBF with the old vocational training that time could be lessened

I suspect the Royal College of Nursing would fight tooth and nail against that. Nursing has fought for years for professionalisation and status. Part of that is accreditation. Rightly or wrongly.